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  • Originally posted by HuSanYan
    CONCEPT
    Ngo Cho Kun is focused three components: breath (chi), form (sze), and strength (li) .If these components are properly cultivated, one's kung-fu skills will be developed naturally. One of the main purposes of Ngo Cho Kun is to be able to generate dynamic explosive force toward the opponent without involving neither speed nor muscle strength. Inside the Ngo Cho Kun training, it all starts and ends with the Sam Chien Form. The only way to develop that explosive power is through the understanding of Sam Chien by practicing it over and over. Now, pay attention to uncle HuSanYan, guys....

    SAM CHIEN FORM
    Sam Chien simply means three wars.
    In general, the target purpose of the sam chien is to develop Ngo Ki Lat(5 powers).
    SOME NGOCHOKUN PROVERBS/MAXIMS
    The clenched fist must be half yin and half yang (i.e., held diagonally) . The feet should hold the practitioner firmly to the ground. Just as the foundation of a tree comes from its roots, the source of strength emanates from the soles of the feet. The ears should be sharp to detect even the slightest blowing of the wind. The eyes should be aware of the four directions of the human gate: Ieft and right, back and front.The head should be held upright) the chin sunk low, the mouth slightly open while retracting the lips to tense the facial and neck muscles, thus :
    simulating the form of a crying rooster (HuSanYans' Crying Rooster technique regularly beats the BJJ guys btw ).
    To complete the fierce look, the eyes are held wide open Iike the eyes of a big fish, the tongue is curled to touch the upper palate, the muscles at the sides of the lips are tensely pulled back, and the nostrils are expanded. Each inhalation and exhalation of breath should produce the quiet sound of a tiger's growl. With a single look, the practitioner, in such a state of facial contortion, looks like a beast ready to devour its prey. The frontal three parts of the body include the chest (expanded), the hips (tucked in for proper alignment of the spine and easy passage of chi), and the testicles (tucked in, with concentration focused on the tan tien). The practitioner is then ready to engage his opponent in the center-arm, on-guard position (chi-ngo tiong ), the classical fighting stance of ngo cho kun. The power source of the hands is divided into three parts: the shoulders, elbows, and wrist. The first power source is derived from the shoulders, which should droop, sinking the chest inward. You should feel the weight going down to the buttocks. The second and third power source are derived from the elbows and wrists respectively, the key words being tun (swallow) and toh (spit out). The elbows are held at the sides of the torso (i.e., swallow), while the forearm, wrist, and hand are held in such a way as to mimic the slope of a dust pan (i.e., spit out). When the hands are thrust forward or backward, with the shoulders drooped and the fore-arms tucked to the sides, the hands will vibrate as a result of muscle tension. Chinese kung-fu masters liken this force to a "dragon playing in the water." Exhale when you thrust your hands forward, inhale when you
    retract your hands to your sides. The continued inhalation and exhalation uses chi to produce power and strength. The third power source is derived from the upper torso, by twisting and shaking the shoulders and
    trembling the stomach. Before thrusting the hands out, pull them in to gain momentum so that when you thrust, there will be a vibrating sound from your strength. This vibrating sound is intrinsic energy (nei-ching) .

    Internally, you are hard as steel, but externally you are soft as cotton thus maintaining an equilibrium of hard and soft, yin and yang. The body, though hard and flexible, is like a wheel when turning. The stomach is as hard as a steel wall. When assuming a proper stance, the legs should be firmly anchored to the ground to achieve and maintain stability, while allowing fast and agile footwork. The stance's power source is comprised of three segments: the
    upper legs or thighs, the lower legs or shins, and the feet. When focusing training on these three parts, you should will your mind to circulate the chi by way of inhalation and exhalation, with it passing from one leg to another as if in a continuous cycle. In the three segments of the legs, the thighs are tucked in, the ankles are exposed outwardly, and the toes are curled up to tense the calf muscles, with the soles of the feet glued to the ground. With the proper form, every step will automatically be firm, Iike roots in the ground.

    This forms a solid stance, thus making the ngo cho kun practitioner as immovable as an iron bar. Diligent practice will enable one to move with ease and coordination while maintaining stability and power.Those who learn and practise the art know that "practice makes perfect". The body has 36 bone points and 72 bone sockets which play an important part in the use of strength and breathing. Each has its special role and must not be confused.

    Talking about the five extremities; the top of the head should be level and upright, the torso should be perpendicular, the teeth should be held open like the cockerel crowing, the voice should roar like a tiger's, the mouth should be open like that of the God of Learning Kui Sing, eyes bright like the fish's eyes, the tongue should be held to the roof of the mouth, nose like the lion's, ear should be sensitive to the whisper of the wind, and eyes look in all directions. The arm has 3 joints for the use of strength: the wrist, the elbow and the shoulder. The hand moves at the wrist like the dragon playing with water and the tiger washing its claws, the shoulder should slope down and the elbows held close to the body. Inside the body should be tense like iron, but the outside should relax and be soft like wool. The body should move freely like a wheel and the abdomen should be like a steel wall. In front lift the bladder and the hypogastrium (easy, anyone can do this ), and hold out the chest. Behind, the buttocks should sink, the waist muscle should be strained and the coccyx should point straight down. Stability is thus established and mobility is achieved.
    The leg has also 3 joints for the execution of strength: the ankle, the knee and the hip. The front muscles are tensed upwards, and the rear muscles are tensed down, the hip joint should be held in and the knee should be kept open. With the five fingers held together and the centre of the palm tensed inwards, the posture will be in equilibrium and every step will produce a root in the ground. Such a position is like a steel wall and movements will follow what is desired by the mind.
    In actual frontal combat, there is the left and the right. Frontal attack must be broken from the side, and attack from the side must be broken from the front. If a "bridge" has been established, cross the "bridge". If there is no bridge try and establish one. When a man is lured across the bridge, destroy the "bridge". If, you know yourself, you win, otherwise you lose.
    Every step has an answer. lf you are prepared to give way, do not raise your hand. lf you raise your hand, do not give way. In an emergency, do not treat the situation like child's play. Movements should be like lightning and strength should be executed like a chopper cutting vegetables. To be strong and brave is not as good as soft and yielding. To show your prowess is not as good as benevolence and politeness. Only is the teaching of ancient sages which should be followed by all.
    Grand Sifu HuSanYan - Sept 2004
    Grand Sifu HuSanYan (or whoever you really are) ni hao
    Seems you've read a lot about Ngo Cho Kun. Congratulations.

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    • welcome Suhana Lim

      Originally posted by Suhana LIM
      Grand Sifu HuSanYan (or whoever you really are) ni hao
      Seems you've read a lot about Ngo Cho Kun. Congratulations.
      ho hao shi shi

      Suhana or whoever you are (1st post and all), I only call my self 'grand sifu' in a humorous way (well my stupid sense of humour anyway), I am no sifu, I have taught JuJutsu though and am currently training in Boxing as a way of handling my male mid life crisis.
      Yes, I have recently read quite a bit as i am currently enjoying some research into the countless styles of wushu (misnomer "Kung Fu") . I find Chinese MA's so very interesting as i do the culture as well, I may even learn Mandarin
      The honest truth of the matter is that i am a guy who has made quite a mess of his life and lost a lot. Some experiences have drawn me very intensively into the pursuit of martial excellence.
      I thank you for your comment and wish you well, and welcome to the forums at Defend.net, they are great fun and have some very knowledgable folks.

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      • Mr. Suhana Lim is only being displeased due to his prior experience. The maker of that website is related to him. The contents on that website had been used in an inappropriate way. I hope you two didn't get off on the wrong foot.


        Cheers,

        L.

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        • Originally posted by HuSanYan
          ho hao shi shi

          Suhana or whoever you are (1st post and all), I only call my self 'grand sifu' in a humorous way (well my stupid sense of humour anyway), I am no sifu, I have taught JuJutsu though and am currently training in Boxing as a way of handling my male mid life crisis.
          Yes, I have recently read quite a bit as i am currently enjoying some research into the countless styles of wushu (misnomer "Kung Fu") . I find Chinese MA's so very interesting as i do the culture as well, I may even learn Mandarin
          The honest truth of the matter is that i am a guy who has made quite a mess of his life and lost a lot. Some experiences have drawn me very intensively into the pursuit of martial excellence.
          I thank you for your comment and wish you well, and welcome to the forums at Defend.net, they are great fun and have some very knowledgable folks.
          Grand sifu Hu San Yan
          wo hen hao, ni che le fan ma?
          First of all, Suhana LIM is my real name. I have nothing to hide whatsoever so I never use alias in my postings. Btw, which part of mainland China are you coming from ? xie xie ni.

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          • Originally posted by Suhana LIM
            Grand sifu Hu San Yan
            wo hen hao, ni che le fan ma?
            First of all, Suhana LIM is my real name. I have nothing to hide whatsoever so I never use alias in my postings. Btw, which part of mainland China are you coming from ? xie xie ni.
            mainland china??, no, I am from Europe.Oh, and i only asked "or whoever you are" because it was your 1st post in that name, and like you said to me "or whoever you are".

            nothingness, I dont see how sharing some info relevant for the topic should be inappropriate.

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            • Grand Sifu Hu San Yan ni hao
              So actually you're from Europe, I tought you're Chinese(Hu San Yan). Of course there is nothing wrong to share and exchange information. That's forum like this for.Unfortunately in most cases, someone just cut and paste something from somewhere and posted it and claimed as his "original" view or idea. Are you NCK practitioner?

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              • Originally posted by Suhana LIM
                Grand Sifu Hu San Yan ni hao
                Are you NCK practitioner?
                I invented NCK actually

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                • Originally posted by HuSanYan
                  I invented NCK actually
                  Grand Sifu Hu San Yan ni hao
                  Which NCK did you invent?

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                  • all of them, but I never finished because I was too busy in my role as Emperor of China.
                    As you can imagine, those were very demanding times for me, there simply were not enough hours in the day.

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                    • Originally posted by HuSanYan
                      all of them, but I never finished because I was too busy in my role as Emperor of China.
                      As you can imagine, those were very demanding times for me, there simply were not enough hours in the day.
                      Grand Sifu Hu San Yan ni hao
                      Which all of them did you mean? The one in your dream or in your imagination or in your wish list?

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                      • Originally posted by Suhana LIM
                        Grand Sifu Hu San Yan ni hao
                        Which all of them did you mean? The one in your dream or in your imagination or in your wish list?
                        all inventions originate in the imagination.
                        Suhana LIM, perhaps if you were to set up a PO Box, I could send you a box of tissues to wipe your crying tears. you seem to be crying like a little boy about something

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                        • HuSanYan CONCEPT
                          Ngo Cho Kun is focused three components: breath (chi), form (sze), and strength (li) .If these components are properly cultivated, one's kung-fu skills will be developed naturally. One of the main purposes of Ngo Cho Kun is to be able to generate dynamic explosive force toward the opponent without involving neither speed nor muscle strength. Inside the Ngo Cho Kun training, it all starts and ends with the Sam Chien Form. The only way to develop that explosive power is through the understanding of Sam Chien by practicing it over and over. Now, pay attention to uncle HuSanYan, guys....

                          SAM CHIEN FORM
                          Sam Chien simply means three wars.
                          In general, the target purpose of the sam chien is to develop Ngo Ki Lat(5 powers).
                          SOME NGOCHOKUN PROVERBS/MAXIMS
                          The clenched fist must be half yin and half yang (i.e., held diagonally) . The feet should hold the practitioner firmly to the ground. Just as the foundation of a tree comes from its roots, the source of strength emanates from the soles of the feet. The ears should be sharp to detect even the slightest blowing of the wind. The eyes should be aware of the four directions of the human gate: Ieft and right, back and front.The head should be held upright) the chin sunk low, the mouth slightly open while retracting the lips to tense the facial and neck muscles, thus :
                          simulating the form of a crying rooster (HuSanYans' Crying Rooster technique regularly beats the BJJ guys btw ).
                          To complete the fierce look, the eyes are held wide open Iike the eyes of a big fish, the tongue is curled to touch the upper palate, the muscles at the sides of the lips are tensely pulled back, and the nostrils are expanded. Each inhalation and exhalation of breath should produce the quiet sound of a tiger's growl. With a single look, the practitioner, in such a state of facial contortion, looks like a beast ready to devour its prey. The frontal three parts of the body include the chest (expanded), the hips (tucked in for proper alignment of the spine and easy passage of chi), and the testicles (tucked in, with concentration focused on the tan tien). The practitioner is then ready to engage his opponent in the center-arm, on-guard position (chi-ngo tiong ), the classical fighting stance of ngo cho kun. The power source of the hands is divided into three parts: the shoulders, elbows, and wrist. The first power source is derived from the shoulders, which should droop, sinking the chest inward. You should feel the weight going down to the buttocks. The second and third power source are derived from the elbows and wrists respectively, the key words being tun (swallow) and toh (spit out). The elbows are held at the sides of the torso (i.e., swallow), while the forearm, wrist, and hand are held in such a way as to mimic the slope of a dust pan (i.e., spit out). When the hands are thrust forward or backward, with the shoulders drooped and the fore-arms tucked to the sides, the hands will vibrate as a result of muscle tension. Chinese kung-fu masters liken this force to a "dragon playing in the water." Exhale when you thrust your hands forward, inhale when you
                          retract your hands to your sides. The continued inhalation and exhalation uses chi to produce power and strength. The third power source is derived from the upper torso, by twisting and shaking the shoulders and
                          trembling the stomach. Before thrusting the hands out, pull them in to gain momentum so that when you thrust, there will be a vibrating sound from your strength. This vibrating sound is intrinsic energy (nei-ching) .

                          Internally, you are hard as steel, but externally you are soft as cotton thus maintaining an equilibrium of hard and soft, yin and yang. The body, though hard and flexible, is like a wheel when turning. The stomach is as hard as a steel wall. When assuming a proper stance, the legs should be firmly anchored to the ground to achieve and maintain stability, while allowing fast and agile footwork. The stance's power source is comprised of three segments: the
                          upper legs or thighs, the lower legs or shins, and the feet. When focusing training on these three parts, you should will your mind to circulate the chi by way of inhalation and exhalation, with it passing from one leg to another as if in a continuous cycle. In the three segments of the legs, the thighs are tucked in, the ankles are exposed outwardly, and the toes are curled up to tense the calf muscles, with the soles of the feet glued to the ground. With the proper form, every step will automatically be firm, Iike roots in the ground.

                          This forms a solid stance, thus making the ngo cho kun practitioner as immovable as an iron bar. Diligent practice will enable one to move with ease and coordination while maintaining stability and power.Those who learn and practise the art know that "practice makes perfect". The body has 36 bone points and 72 bone sockets which play an important part in the use of strength and breathing. Each has its special role and must not be confused.

                          Talking about the five extremities; the top of the head should be level and upright, the torso should be perpendicular, the teeth should be held open like the cockerel crowing, the voice should roar like a tiger's, the mouth should be open like that of the God of Learning Kui Sing, eyes bright like the fish's eyes, the tongue should be held to the roof of the mouth, nose like the lion's, ear should be sensitive to the whisper of the wind, and eyes look in all directions. The arm has 3 joints for the use of strength: the wrist, the elbow and the shoulder. The hand moves at the wrist like the dragon playing with water and the tiger washing its claws, the shoulder should slope down and the elbows held close to the body. Inside the body should be tense like iron, but the outside should relax and be soft like wool. The body should move freely like a wheel and the abdomen should be like a steel wall. In front lift the bladder and the hypogastrium (easy, anyone can do this ), and hold out the chest. Behind, the buttocks should sink, the waist muscle should be strained and the coccyx should point straight down. Stability is thus established and mobility is achieved.
                          The leg has also 3 joints for the execution of strength: the ankle, the knee and the hip. The front muscles are tensed upwards, and the rear muscles are tensed down, the hip joint should be held in and the knee should be kept open. With the five fingers held together and the centre of the palm tensed inwards, the posture will be in equilibrium and every step will produce a root in the ground. Such a position is like a steel wall and movements will follow what is desired by the mind.
                          In actual frontal combat, there is the left and the right. Frontal attack must be broken from the side, and attack from the side must be broken from the front. If a "bridge" has been established, cross the "bridge". If there is no bridge try and establish one. When a man is lured across the bridge, destroy the "bridge". If, you know yourself, you win, otherwise you lose.
                          Every step has an answer. lf you are prepared to give way, do not raise your hand. lf you raise your hand, do not give way. In an emergency, do not treat the situation like child's play. Movements should be like lightning and strength should be executed like a chopper cutting vegetables. To be strong and brave is not as good as soft and yielding. To show your prowess is not as good as benevolence and politeness. Only is the teaching of ancient sages which should be followed by all.
                          BTW did you honestly think this is something we didn't know

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                          • You guys are taking HuSanYan too seriously. He is just pulling your leg.

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                            • Originally posted by joedoe
                              You guys are taking HuSanYan too seriously. He is just pulling your leg.
                              I'd guess you're right, imagine being that naive, I'm glad that I'm not.

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                              • Originally posted by HuSanYan
                                I'd guess you're right, imagine being that naive, I'm glad that I'm not.
                                I wouldn't call it naivete, just passion

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