Ngo Cho Kun

[konghan]

kung fu is an interesting subject to me
i have NOT much experience with martial arts
just your forum was on the top of a list and i decided to ask some questions.
i read some interesting gear on other forums and sites so i wanted your views thank you
your style sounds like long and expensive on time and money
it seems to me to be dislocated from reality and a fantasy world like in the movies
if its so good why have we not seen more of it in any competions
its a way to make people's ego bigger and their wallets thicker by fooling students that they can use it for self-defence straight away
give me exercise to practise to prove me wrong and not empty words about the merits of ngo cho
bye bye millie

I like to add something here & I hope it will give you some insight. Ngo Cho Kun is not expensive it is taught to those who have the deligent, hardwork & patient & who wish to learn in fact most of the true great Sifu like master Sifu Lo King Hiu doesn`t charge exhorbitant fees nor do students have to pay to reach the next level. Unlike many commercialised martial art schools were in they charge all kinds of fees & their approached towards students is more pleasant to make them feel good. In that set up it is the Sifu who must bow & respect the students & he is not allowed to criticised or give them hardtime but must always give them a good tap on the back to make them feel good.

Real martial art school is like a boot camp where in the students must pay respect to the Sifu & must show deligent & hardwork they under go a military type of training no fun, fun only after training secession its not about money.

Some Ngo Cho Kun in Europe have adopted & revised their meathod to that of commercialization which is ok as long as those schools have qualified instructors & are bestowing the right techniques to their students.

Ngo Cho Kun unlike again other martial arts doesn`t advertised too much becuase it is targetted only to those who are really interested. As far as tournaments, yes there are tournaments that are held annually in China, Malaysia, Taiwan & sometime in other European countries that have Ngo Cho Kun rules. The rules are full power punching, kicking, & throwings are allowed.

As far as applicability in real combat, I can say that if you reach di sip kun level & have been very deligent in training you`ll be able to take on two street punks. Average time to reach di sip kun will be at least 3x a week for 2-3 hrs training, is 6 months. And i`m talking about serious training not playfull training, then you`ll feel, & see the power of Ngo Cho Kun.

Here`s a summary on what you need to do:
1. stretching left, right, side ways on your legs. for about 10 min
2. push ups, flat palm, fist down, & finger push ups, do each about 25- 50x increase count as you gain strength.
3. sit ups or any abs exercises, start out with 25x increased to about 50x 3 rep as you pregresses.
4.fighting stance ( sam chien be se) right foot in front tension-power punching watch your breathing, left & right punching 100- 500x, then switch to left foot in front same 100- 500x punching. Then do side kicks left & right.
5. fighting stance( sam chien be se ) right kick combo 2 punch again watch ur breathing & for every kick & punch put tension & power in it 100-200x. Then switch left kick combo 2 punches.
6. do sam chien 4x with full concentration, breathing, & putting tension & power in ur arm, legs, hip, & tan tien ( lower belly button area ).
7. same with tien te chien 4x
8. same with di sip kun 5x
There are still more stuff like locking & sweeping techniques but for now this is it.

[konghan]

Hello yentao,



I am practicing traditional Arnis and traditional Silat therefore I think I could manage deep stances. I didn't know although there were many jumps in Ngo Cho Kun....
I rather thought this art is close quarter oriented.... as a fast attacking system that uses mainly hand techniques and few foot techniques...

I understand you NCK guys use lots of elbow-palm strikes when your opponents kicks, so TKD type fights must be easy for you....

By the way I am really interested in learning NCK. Some tsinoy-pinoy friends could recomend me to Alex, but as you said it would be better to learn with somebody mastering the wole system....
Do you know somebody who could teach me?

Thanks,
Christian.

There are many jumps in NCK, remember Ngo Cho Kun means 5 Ancestors Fist, the style of the great 5 masters of shao lin put in one. And one of the style is kao kun or monkey fist. Not only is there a lot of jumping at the higher lvl its all about high double scissor kicks & ground kicking & sweeping almost like break dancing except in NCK its not dancing its power sweeping & spinning.

[sherwinc]

I like to add something here & I hope it will give you some insight. Ngo Cho Kun is not expensive it is taught to those who have the deligent, hardwork & patient & who wish to learn in fact most of the true great Sifu like master Sifu Lo King Hiu doesn`t charge exhorbitant fees nor do students have to pay to reach the next level. Unlike many commercialised martial art schools were in they charge all kinds of fees & their approached towards students is more pleasant to make them feel good. In that set up it is the Sifu who must bow & respect the students & he is not allowed to criticised or give them hardtime but must always give them a good tap on the back to make them feel good.

Real martial art school is like a boot camp where in the students must pay respect to the Sifu & must show deligent & hardwork they under go a military type of training no fun, fun only after training secession its not about money.

Some Ngo Cho Kun in Europe have adopted & revised their meathod to that of commercialization which is ok as long as those schools have qualified instructors & are bestowing the right techniques to their students.

Ngo Cho Kun unlike again other martial arts doesn`t advertised too much becuase it is targetted only to those who are really interested. As far as tournaments, yes there are tournaments that are held annually in China, Malaysia, Taiwan & sometime in other European countries that have Ngo Cho Kun rules. The rules are full power punching, kicking, & throwings are allowed.

As far as applicability in real combat, I can say that if you reach di sip kun level & have been very deligent in training you`ll be able to take on two street punks. Average time to reach di sip kun will be at least 3x a week for 2-3 hrs training, is 6 months. And i`m talking about serious training not playfull training, then you`ll feel, & see the power of Ngo Cho Kun.

Here`s a summary on what you need to do:
1. stretching left, right, side ways on your legs. for about 10 min
2. push ups, flat palm, fist down, & finger push ups, do each about 25- 50x increase count as you gain strength.
3. sit ups or any abs exercises, start out with 25x increased to about 50x 3 rep as you pregresses.
4.fighting stance ( sam chien be se) right foot in front tension-power punching watch your breathing, left & right punching 100- 500x, then switch to left foot in front same 100- 500x punching. Then do side kicks left & right.
5. fighting stance( sam chien be se ) right kick combo 2 punch again watch ur breathing & for every kick & punch put tension & power in it 100-200x. Then switch left kick combo 2 punches.
6. do sam chien 4x with full concentration, breathing, & putting tension & power in ur arm, legs, hip, & tan tien ( lower belly button area ).
7. same with tien te chien 4x
8. same with di sip kun 5x
There are still more stuff like locking & sweeping techniques but for now this is it.

My Instructor teach me NgoChoKun(GoCho) like:
1. Di Sip Kun (20 punches)
2. Chiee, Pian, Kim, Kaw ( he teach me only 4 hand attacks )
3. Kia Be Se (Horse-riding stance training but i reach only 6 mins)
4. Steady knuckle Push-up Position in 7 minutes (give emphasis on left fist rather than right fist)
5. Arm Hitting Exercise ( NgoChoKun version of Iron Bridge Forearm )
6. A comparison between a NgoChoKun punch and a ChiDianBun punch

yet my instructor did not teach me SamChien, he teach SamChien to one of my 15 classmates and i usually observed my classmate while he perform his SamChien.

Now, I have a book - the book of NgoChoKun (BengKiam version) and i continue study to increase my previously learned NgoChoKun from my instructor(KongHan version).

so, studying SamChien from the BengKiam book is no problem cause i have a previously background of NgoChoKun's Theory and Training in a half half.

[sherwinc]

There are many jumps in NCK, remember Ngo Cho Kun means 5 Ancestors Fist, the style of the great 5 masters of shao lin put in one. And one of the style is kao kun or monkey fist. Not only is there a lot of jumping at the higher lvl its all about high double scissor kicks & ground kicking & sweeping almost like break dancing except in NCK its not dancing its power sweeping & spinning.

I was really impressed about what you learned if you keep on practicing Di Sip Kun.

why?????

cause that Kata (Di Sip Kun) teach you how to bulldoze an opponent - and finish the fight before 60seconds.

That Kata is a very fast to execute(aggresively) not like those of Karate and Tae Kwon Do Kata on which is a pause by pause or stop by stop motion to execute.

[konghan]

I was really impressed about what you learned if you keep on practicing Di Sip Kun.

why?????

cause that Kata (Di Sip Kun) teach you how to bulldoze an opponent - and finish the fight before 60seconds.

That Kata is a very fast to execute(aggresively) not like those of Karate and Tae Kwon Do Kata on which is a pause by pause or stop by stop motion to execute.

Di sip kun training combine with serious kah go ki ( forearm strengthening ) will develop your arm power, blocking instinct against all form of kick & boxing attack. If you reach lvl 6 or di chat you will learn good sweeping, arm locking technique.

Another thing is to, hit the punching bag or heavy bag hit it for at least 30 min, then train your kicks on the heavy bag or on a strong pillar for about 45 min split it between front kick left then right, then side kicks, then 45 degree kicks. Do ka go ki at least once a week for 1 hr.

Learn your sam chien well, because sam chien will develop your breathing, concentration, inner power, foot & leg power as well as balance. Sam chien will also develop your 5 power ( goh ki lat ) which is the foundation of Ngo Cho Kun.

Remember its about understanding what you are doing if you don`t understand you will not appreciate what it is. And from the sound of thing you seem to be a serious Ngo Cho Kun practitioner.

Also, eat healthy foods, lots of vegetables. Avoid beer, drugs & cigarettes. Whisky is ok but do not overdose ur self.

[konghan]

Any more Ngo Cho Kun books?

So far the only book in the market about ngo cho kun is the one by Alexander Co of Beng Kiam. I`ve searched the internet & can`t find any other NCK books. Does anybody know where I can buy NCK book or manual that focuses on technique, application & training.
I already have Alex Co`s book I need more knowledge on NCK.

[Pitbullz]

So far the only book in the market about ngo cho kun is the one by Alexander Co of Beng Kiam. I`ve searched the internet & can`t find any other NCK books. Does anybody know where I can buy NCK book or manual that focuses on technique, application & training.
I already have Alex Co`s book I need more knowledge on NCK.

if ur willing to pay the postage,ill send u the official NCK handbook w the new set,chong hap kun along with the cd. and some other stuff. ill get 1 copy each from the konghan office. ikaw ba si jimmy or whats ur/his name?

[krys]

Another thing is to, hit the punching bag or heavy bag hit it for at least 30 min, then train your kicks on the heavy bag or on a strong pillar for about 45 min split it between front kick left then right, then side kicks, then 45 degree kicks. Do ka go ki at least once a week for 1 hr.

Sounds very tough, I will have to work a lot more on my stamina and strengthen my body..... but won't you get injured doing this? I try to hit the bag every day for 30- 45 minutes with open hand-elbow strikes, but won't kicking for 45 minutes dayly a strong pillar probably give you injuries?

[sherwinc]

Di sip kun training combine with serious kah go ki ( forearm strengthening ) will develop your arm power, blocking instinct against all form of kick & boxing attack. If you reach lvl 6 or di chat you will learn good sweeping, arm locking technique.

Another thing is to, hit the punching bag or heavy bag hit it for at least 30 min, then train your kicks on the heavy bag or on a strong pillar for about 45 min split it between front kick left then right, then side kicks, then 45 degree kicks. Do ka go ki at least once a week for 1 hr.

Learn your sam chien well, because sam chien will develop your breathing, concentration, inner power, foot & leg power as well as balance. Sam chien will also develop your 5 power ( goh ki lat ) which is the foundation of Ngo Cho Kun.

Remember its about understanding what you are doing if you don`t understand you will not appreciate what it is. And from the sound of thing you seem to be a serious Ngo Cho Kun practitioner.

Also, eat healthy foods, lots of vegetables. Avoid beer, drugs & cigarettes. Whisky is ok but do not overdose ur self.

Why is it that my Instructor said that he allow us to drink Beer after KokSut training but not Whisky? And i finally found out that Drinking Beer is a really good stuff when training AngKa KungFu.

AngKa KungFu is the sister art of NgoChoKun KungFu. AngKa KungFu is a very popular Northern KungFu like those you see in movies Arhats Boxing or Shaolin LoHan Style KungFu. You can see it also in many moves of the famous actor Jacky Chan.

Now, if i am not wrong, maybe the only level/version that my instructor learned in NgoChoKun is on that part...... why? .... cause my instructor oftenly said that "If your body is not suitable for a NgoChoKun, Yes, you can do practice it, but a day will come that a split of blood came out of you mouth"....... cause GoCho(NgoChoKun) according to my instructor is a very brutal force by force yet softhard(not a soft and hard but its a softhard), a Killer Machine, you are like a ROBOT when do punching.

That is the reason why most of the NgoChoKun practitioners has a big body (not a muscle type body)

I did not see any Crane, Monkey, or any levels of NgoChoKun but only it's AngKa Version.

NgoChoKun KungFu is a southern KungFu and travels in a straight path
AngKa (sister art of GoCho) is a northern KungFu and spread to most part of the world.

Now, if these WingChun has their IronBridgeForearm, it is a very good to battle with this Robotic Forearm and Powerpunch of NgoChoKun, but a negative side of this WingChun KungFu according to my instructor is "WingChun is a Girly martial art"

The NgoChoKun Chiee Punch and ChiDianBun Punch has a similarity in a Half Ying and a Half Yang but a WingChun Punch is a Vertical Fist. Well, a karate punch is a straight from shoulder to elbow to fist and a Horizontal Fist.

Now.....

most of the moves of NgoChoKunKungFu, ChiDianBunKungFu, WingChunKungFu - they are all "BEND ELBOWS" and "SHORT DISTANCE"

while.....

most of the moves of Karate, Tae Kwon Do - they are all "STRAIGHT ELBOWS" and it is one of a dis-advantages moves to KungFu advantages.

I just wondering if which is really stronger in delivering PUNCHING POWER:
TaiChiChuan or NgoChoKun?

Note:
NgoChoKun - power from SamChien ( it's NgoKiLat), waist whipping power.
TaiChiChuan - a fist is not a fist, the whole body is a fist, rooted on the ground.

Another Note:
since all KungFu use Chi to make their attacks powerful.
In NgoChoKun - (Wai Dan) Chi
In TaiChiChuan - (Nei Dan) Chi

while....

Karate use shoulder power
Tae Kwon Do use shoulder power punch, Hip power kicking.

[konghan]

Why is it that my Instructor said that he allow us to drink Beer after KokSut training but not Whisky? And i finally found out that Drinking Beer is a really good stuff when training AngKa KungFu.

AngKa KungFu is the sister art of NgoChoKun KungFu. AngKa KungFu is a very popular Northern KungFu like those you see in movies Arhats Boxing or Shaolin LoHan Style KungFu. You can see it also in many moves of the famous actor Jacky Chan.

Now, if i am not wrong, maybe the only level/version that my instructor learned in NgoChoKun is on that part...... why? .... cause my instructor oftenly said that "If your body is not suitable for a NgoChoKun, Yes, you can do practice it, but a day will come that a split of blood came out of you mouth"....... cause GoCho(NgoChoKun) according to my instructor is a very brutal force by force yet softhard(not a soft and hard but its a softhard), a Killer Machine, you are like a ROBOT when do punching.

That is the reason why most of the NgoChoKun practitioners has a big body (not a muscle type body)

I did not see any Crane, Monkey, or any levels of NgoChoKun but only it's AngKa Version.

NgoChoKun KungFu is a southern KungFu and travels in a straight path
AngKa (sister art of GoCho) is a northern KungFu and spread to most part of the world.

Now, if these WingChun has their IronBridgeForearm, it is a very good to battle with this Robotic Forearm and Powerpunch of NgoChoKun, but a negative side of this WingChun KungFu according to my instructor is "WingChun is a Girly martial art"

The NgoChoKun Chiee Punch and ChiDianBun Punch has a similarity in a Half Ying and a Half Yang but a WingChun Punch is a Vertical Fist. Well, a karate punch is a straight from shoulder to elbow to fist and a Horizontal Fist.

Now.....

most of the moves of NgoChoKunKungFu, ChiDianBunKungFu, WingChunKungFu - they are all "BEND ELBOWS" and "SHORT DISTANCE"

while.....

most of the moves of Karate, Tae Kwon Do - they are all "STRAIGHT ELBOWS" and it is one of a dis-advantages moves to KungFu advantages.

I just wondering if which is really stronger in delivering PUNCHING POWER:
TaiChiChuan or NgoChoKun?

Note:
NgoChoKun - power from SamChien ( it's NgoKiLat), waist whipping power.
TaiChiChuan - a fist is not a fist, the whole body is a fist, rooted on the ground.

Another Note:
since all KungFu use Chi to make their attacks powerful.
In NgoChoKun - (Wai Dan) Chi
In TaiChiChuan - (Nei Dan) Chi

while....

Karate use shoulder power
Tae Kwon Do use shoulder power punch, Hip power kicking.

What do you mean beer is good for practicing Angkakun?
All alcohols when taken moderately is good for health, good for blood flow, prevent blood clotting, prevent heart decease. In fact calorie wise, beer has lower calorie then whisky, but whisky has a better effect in cold climate.

me personally, I prefer whisky or liquors because if i drink beer I feel my joints untight my body cools up but if I drink liquorsI feel my inner body heats up my vains & muscle feel strong. Beside beer has so much yeast that can make a person gain weight plus increase the size of belly ( pot belly ). But the main point & important part is that as long as all alcohol are taken moderately it should be ok.

NCK is like a ROBOT when doing punching!, well, there is a misconception here let me clarify. In di sip kun which is the punching form. the way to properly execute that is to combine the following, leg, hip, shoulder, elbow (arm) & wrist power. The main power that is usually most visible seem to be coming from the fist or arm but its not. The power source come from the legs & hips. the shoulder arm or elbow & wrist only react to the amount of power that the leg & hip can generate to transfer it to the shoulder, arm & wrist. In fact in di sip kun the punching sequence is fast... block--1-2-3 punch not giving the opponent a chance to react. Not only that, the punch goes straight out then twist down aiming for the sternum. That twisting motion can have a better penetration & do more damage. the power punching is only one part of NCK.

At higher level its mostly high double, single scissor techniques as well as sweeping. The forms from the 5th or song sui up are all fast phase combining foot work, blocking, sweeping, locking, & punching.

As far as seeing crane or monkey style in NCK. NCK donot display the actual visual animal movements that we usually see in the movies. NCK simplified the animal movement. NCK as you know consist of the 5 special techniques of the 5 masters of shaolin the techniques are:

1. White crane emphasised the whipping power, in sam chien its the open palm, the thrusting the double low block ( just like the movie karate kid ). In higher level it is utilised in hand speed.
2. Lohan; the breathing or chi or tan tien which is the hip power. proper breathing can generate proper execution & distribution of power plus regulate stamina.
3. Tai Zu: foot work, to maintaine balance & power.
4. Kao kun; is about agility & mobility. In pah kat & upper level form the kao kun is there the jumping is not just jumping, have you ever see a cockfighting I bet you have, notice how those roosters will jump around to evade as well as attack. kao kun is about hit & run.
5. Tat Chun or Ta Mo : iron body training, the ability to take punishment & to amplify the power & form generated to the other parts of the body.

NCK has no short cut to understand & master the techniques. It has to be learn step by step.

All martial arts are actually good it is actually up to the practitioner to learn & properly utilise, modify & execute the techniques. Its all about preparation, conditioning & training.

[sherwinc]

NCK is like a ROBOT when doing punching!, well, there is a misconception here let me clarify. In di sip kun which is the punching form. the way to properly execute that is to combine the following, leg, hip, shoulder, elbow (arm) & wrist power. The main power that is usually most visible seem to be coming from the fist or arm but its not. The power source come from the legs & hips. the shoulder arm or elbow & wrist only react to the amount of power that the leg & hip can generate to transfer it to the shoulder, arm & wrist. In fact in di sip kun the punching sequence is fast... block--1-2-3 punch not giving the opponent a chance to react. Not only that, the punch goes straight out then twist down aiming for the sternum. That twisting motion can have a better penetration & do more damage. the power punching is only one part of NCK.

Power from the Hip? i think power came from Waist Whipping Power.

When we execute Di Sip Kun Form(Kata), we execute it very fast and aggresive, like execute first Kim (a semi-circle of winglike edge of the hand to hit or smash the forearm of the opponent as you simutaenously follow-up with a three short punches to the solar plexus like buldozing an opponent with 3short distance punches. A total of 20 short punches. No pause-by-pause and no stop-by-stop movement. After punching 3times immediately turn to the side while executing a Kim with another 3short punches in the same target point - the solar plexus.

This is what i mean that when performing power punching by means of exhaling air thru your nose and not by means of shouting Kiaaaa like those of Karate and Asssaaaaiiiiiyyyyy of Tae Kwon Do.

Inhale while withdraw your fist then exhale when a follow-up punch.

Cause Shouting while punching only dividing your power.

TaiChiChuan KungFu
NgoChoKun KungFu
ChiDianBun KungFu
WingChun KungFu

They all doesn't shout when executing a very powerful punch. Cause A FIST IS NOT A FIST, THE WHOLE BODY BECOMES A FIST. The Whole body moves not just shoulder or arm or fist but the whole body moves or the whole body is in motion.

A Good Example Of Power Punch:

In Karate:
The Karate perform a lung or reverse punch and hit the opponents chest while shouting "Kiaaaaaa"

In GoCho (NgoChoKun):
The NgoChoKun performs a punch thru exhaling air unto his nose and while he hit the opponents chest - NgoChoKun's punch dig a whole on the opponent's chest and the punch slips throughout the back of the opponent.

Note:
In reality, he cannot do dig a whole in the chest by means of a punch, it is like a ROBOT BULDOZER, a Killer Machine.

[yentao]

So far the only book in the market about ngo cho kun is the one by Alexander Co of Beng Kiam. I`ve searched the internet & can`t find any other NCK books. Does anybody know where I can buy NCK book or manual that focuses on technique, application & training.
I already have Alex Co`s book I need more knowledge on NCK.

There are other books publish by other lineages. The book available in the net is the second book publish by Alex Co, Yap Ching Hai of Malaysia said to have publish some NCK books too. Also some practitioners in China and Hong Kong.

[yentao]

What do you mean beer is good for practicing Angkakun?
All alcohols when taken moderately is good for health, good for blood flow, prevent blood clotting, prevent heart decease. In fact calorie wise, beer has lower calorie then whisky, but whisky has a better effect in cold climate.

me personally, I prefer whisky or liquors because if i drink beer I feel my joints untight my body cools up but if I drink liquorsI feel my inner body heats up my vains & muscle feel strong. Beside beer has so much yeast that can make a person gain weight plus increase the size of belly ( pot belly ). But the main point & important part is that as long as all alcohol are taken moderately it should be ok.

NCK is like a ROBOT when doing punching!, well, there is a misconception here let me clarify. In di sip kun which is the punching form. the way to properly execute that is to combine the following, leg, hip, shoulder, elbow (arm) & wrist power. The main power that is usually most visible seem to be coming from the fist or arm but its not. The power source come from the legs & hips. the shoulder arm or elbow & wrist only react to the amount of power that the leg & hip can generate to transfer it to the shoulder, arm & wrist. In fact in di sip kun the punching sequence is fast... block--1-2-3 punch not giving the opponent a chance to react. Not only that, the punch goes straight out then twist down aiming for the sternum. That twisting motion can have a better penetration & do more damage. the power punching is only one part of NCK.

At higher level its mostly high double, single scissor techniques as well as sweeping. The forms from the 5th or song sui up are all fast phase combining foot work, blocking, sweeping, locking, & punching.

As far as seeing crane or monkey style in NCK. NCK donot display the actual visual animal movements that we usually see in the movies. NCK simplified the animal movement. NCK as you know consist of the 5 special techniques of the 5 masters of shaolin the techniques are:

1. White crane emphasised the whipping power, in sam chien its the open palm, the thrusting the double low block ( just like the movie karate kid ). In higher level it is utilised in hand speed.
2. Lohan; the breathing or chi or tan tien which is the hip power. proper breathing can generate proper execution & distribution of power plus regulate stamina.
3. Tai Zu: foot work, to maintaine balance & power.
4. Kao kun; is about agility & mobility. In pah kat & upper level form the kao kun is there the jumping is not just jumping, have you ever see a cockfighting I bet you have, notice how those roosters will jump around to evade as well as attack. kao kun is about hit & run.
5. Tat Chun or Ta Mo : iron body training, the ability to take punishment & to amplify the power & form generated to the other parts of the body.

NCK has no short cut to understand & master the techniques. It has to be learn step by step.

All martial arts are actually good it is actually up to the practitioner to learn & properly utilise, modify & execute the techniques. Its all about preparation, conditioning & training.

I don't think taking beer and whiskey is good at all along with practice. It can ruin the "jing". I use a diagonal punch w/ snapping the fist through is a more faster way along with hip whipping motion.

[sherwinc]

I don't think taking beer and whiskey is good at all along with practice. It can ruin the "jing". I use a diagonal punch w/ snapping the fist through is a more faster way along with hip whipping motion.

Drinking Beer or Whiskey loosen's pain when Practicing AngKa KungFu IronBody Hitting Training. It's a temporary Pain resistant. AngKa KungFu and Drunken KungFu may have the same theory..... yet it is not allowed in TaiChiChuan and other Internal Arts (Nei Dan KungFu)

[konghan]

Power from the Hip? i think power came from Waist Whipping Power.

When we execute Di Sip Kun Form(Kata), we execute it very fast and aggresive, like execute first Kim (a semi-circle of winglike edge of the hand to hit or smash the forearm of the opponent as you simutaenously follow-up with a three short punches to the solar plexus like buldozing an opponent with 3short distance punches. A total of 20 short punches. No pause-by-pause and no stop-by-stop movement. After punching 3times immediately turn to the side while executing a Kim with another 3short punches in the same target point - the solar plexus.

This is what i mean that when performing power punching by means of exhaling air thru your nose and not by means of shouting Kiaaaa like those of Karate and Asssaaaaiiiiiyyyyy of Tae Kwon Do.

Inhale while withdraw your fist then exhale when a follow-up punch.

Cause Shouting while punching only dividing your power.

TaiChiChuan KungFu
NgoChoKun KungFu
ChiDianBun KungFu
WingChun KungFu

They all doesn't shout when executing a very powerful punch. Cause A FIST IS NOT A FIST, THE WHOLE BODY BECOMES A FIST. The Whole body moves not just shoulder or arm or fist but the whole body moves or the whole body is in motion.

A Good Example Of Power Punch:

In Karate:
The Karate perform a lung or reverse punch and hit the opponents chest while shouting "Kiaaaaaa"

In GoCho (NgoChoKun):
The NgoChoKun performs a punch thru exhaling air unto his nose and while he hit the opponents chest - NgoChoKun's punch dig a whole on the opponent's chest and the punch slips throughout the back of the opponent.

Note:
In reality, he cannot do dig a whole in the chest by means of a punch, it is like a ROBOT BULDOZER, a Killer Machine.

Pardon me I was thinking of hula dancers, hip twisting lol, I actually mean waist.

The phrase " A fist is not a fist, the whole body becomes a fist", my interpretation of that in NCK principle it means the development of the go ki lat (5 powers). The power of a punch comes from the legs which is to established one self sturderly in the ground, absorbe the energy travel from the ground to the legs to the hip or waist then amplifying that power to the shoulder to the elbow then like electricity the voltage goes out to the fist. The amount of power will depend on how much one have develop his go ki lat & how deligent & serious he is in his training.

NCK, just like boxers, their punching technique is breath in thru the nose & exhale thru the mouth not thru the nose, exhaling simultaneously delivering a punch.

As far as other form like TKD, karate, Tai chi etc. I have limited knowledge on those, what I know is that tkd is like the north shaolin technique that concentrate a lot in the use of high kicking , as of now my concentration is developing my NCK. There is just so much to absorbe I don`t think we can master all form of martial arts but what we can do is master one form & be really good at it.