Ngo Cho Kun

[yentao]

Does anybody knows any NCK here in North America USA or Canada? I kind`d remember that there is one in the USA operated by Bonifacio Lim of Beng Kiam I was just wondering where is it located? or is there any other NCK?

In USA Mr.Bonifacio is in Princeton, New Jersey.

[konghan]

As far as I know the art of Wuqiquan was still practiced 7 years ago in Malaysia.
I met a chinese-malaysian in Kuala Terrenganu who performed it there....

All the best,
Christian.

Wuqiquan, I never had the chance to learn that one. So what i did is after consulting with my kiak-pai Headmaster Henry Lo, I converted sam chien & other forms to wuqiquan. Instead of doing it the explosive way which is for those who want to train in the fighting aspects of NCK. I have those who wish only to train for health to perform it in a rhythmic slower phase in coodination with breathing & muscle movements. The important part is the "tan tien" need to be maintaine. Self defense training is also incorporated into it.

[Nothingness]

Video please

[konghan]

Video please

man, your an impatient man, sam chien technique, tien te chien form & di sip kun coming soon.

[sherwinc]

man, your an impatient man, sam chien technique, tien te chien form & di sip kun coming soon.

I know already SamChien and DiSipKun....

konghan pls.... show me the tien te lin chien and its application

.... it could be helpful to me to add my knowledge in NgoChoKun

[yentao]

I know already SamChien and DiSipKun....

konghan pls.... show me the tien te lin chien and its application

.... it could be helpful to me to add my knowledge in NgoChoKun

You should then train Ngo Cho Kun formally from someone not on videos or pictures it doesn't help you.

[sherwinc]

You should then train Ngo Cho Kun formally from someone not on videos or pictures it doesn't help you.

i was trained in Di Sip Kun and 4 of its hand techniques (Kim, Kaw, Chiee, Pian), especially the Kia Be Se 6 mins of horse riding stance and push-up position in a 6 mins also.....

My knowledge in NgoChoKun is very low, and my KungFu Instructor frequently said that he only teach NgoChoKun only 2 students ( and i am not included)

meaning.... my knowledge in Ngo Cho Kun - True, it is not a formal way....

for him, NgoChoKun is taught to only selected students whose structure of body is compatible to do tensions....... or else, the practitioner will spit-out blood from his mouth if his body is not compatible to do chiens....

while my instructor teach only me the art of Long Tassled Tai Chi Sword - i usually observed secretly unto my classmate performing the art of Sam Chien, i notice that when is the right timing to tense......

but my instructor will never teach his ngochokun to anyone except those two classmates of mine... other strangers willing to pay a good amount of money but my instructor also will not teach....

but if you still insist to pay him, he will only say: "you pay me money to teach you NgoChoKun??? No, i wont, i am rich and i dont need your money"

especially his Southern Eagle Claw KungFu, he still doesnt want to teach that art to anyone, he only kept that art just for himself (NgoChoKun and Southern Eagle Claw) KungFu

[konghan]

i was trained in Di Sip Kun and 4 of its hand techniques (Kim, Kaw, Chiee, Pian), especially the Kia Be Se 6 mins of horse riding stance and push-up position in a 6 mins also.....

My knowledge in NgoChoKun is very low, and my KungFu Instructor frequently said that he only teach NgoChoKun only 2 students ( and i am not included)

meaning.... my knowledge in Ngo Cho Kun - True, it is not a formal way....

for him, NgoChoKun is taught to only selected students whose structure of body is compatible to do tensions....... or else, the practitioner will spit-out blood from his mouth if his body is not compatible to do chiens....

while my instructor teach only me the art of Long Tassled Tai Chi Sword - i usually observed secretly unto my classmate performing the art of Sam Chien, i notice that when is the right timing to tense......

but my instructor will never teach his ngochokun to anyone except those two classmates of mine... other strangers willing to pay a good amount of money but my instructor also will not teach....

but if you still insist to pay him, he will only say: "you pay me money to teach you NgoChoKun??? No, i wont, i am rich and i dont need your money"

especially his Southern Eagle Claw KungFu, he still doesnt want to teach that art to anyone, he only kept that art just for himself (NgoChoKun and Southern Eagle Claw) KungFu

Now a days, anything is hardly a secret anymore with so many research materials available. Communication has advance so much & there are so many form & other way of self defense that include modern weapons like guns.

I believe that kung fu should be taught to anyone with the character, dedication & commitment to learn it. Kung fu must be kept alive or else its history will be lost.

But here is one technique in tien te chien, that I believe can be found in many MA books & is no secrete. The double finger hand strike (palm flat) targets the colar bone, by sinking the fingers into the colar bone soft area & then pulling it out, its kind`d grouse & a very brutal technique also it requires one to have good or powerful fingers like the great masters of kung fu who have powerful fingers not only for applying presure when they perform their bone setting & pressure point techniques on patients.

[sherwinc]

Now a days, anything is hardly a secret anymore with so many research materials available. Communication has advance so much & there are so many form & other way of self defense that include modern weapons like guns.

I believe that kung fu should be taught to anyone with the character, dedication & commitment to learn it. Kung fu must be kept alive or else its history will be lost.

But here is one technique in tien te chien, that I believe can be found in many MA books & is no secrete. The double finger hand strike (palm flat) targets the colar bone, by sinking the fingers into the colar bone soft area & then pulling it out, its kind`d grouse & a very brutal technique also it requires one to have good or powerful fingers like the great masters of kung fu who have powerful fingers not only for applying presure when they perform their bone setting & pressure point techniques on patients.

i got an idea, i dont think if i am correct, but i heard it before my instructor said that....

an AngKa Pointing Finger Trademark....

actually, we dont believe what we heard before we start met our instructor...... some of his explaination is impossible - but days passed, we finally realize that in every word that he teach/explain us - there is a deep meaning inside it and we finally concluded that it really works (but it depends upon if it fitted to you or not)

my instructor also said that in KongHan School, there you could find a Mother Flag and a Battle Flag besides it, then the kungfu weaponry displays.....

he also said that:
there are two best fighters guarding those Mother Flag and Battle Flags not to fall or esle, the school will close automatic before you set those Flags to stand......

[konghan]

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my instructor also said that in KongHan School, there you could find a Mother Flag and a Battle Flag besides it, then the kungfu weaponry displays.....

he also said that:
there are two best fighters guarding those Mother Flag and Battle Flags not to fall or esle, the school will close automatic before you set those Flags to stand......

True, Kong Han school system is base on strong tradition it takes active role in helping making the sorrounding community safe. It is a "brotherhood" or a fraternal organization. In the old days in China it is martial art schools that provide policing as well as acting as militia forces in their respective locations.

Not only the flag, but the big 'Kwoon Pai" or slogan or motto plague that is located at the main area of the school usually at the top of ancestral alter must be protected.

But now a days, many of this meanings are getting lost becuase in the west most of them are not interested in tradition or, principle or the philisophy of a martial art school but rather it is all about commercialism for them.

[konghan]

Well, I got accepted to teach ngo cho kun at a corporate fitness centre here for 6 weeks a trial program. But before I could start they require that I take a liability insurance policy. I hope that they like what they see & feel & make ngo cho kun a part of their training program.

[Nothingness]

Congratulations and best wishes!

[joedoe]

Wuqiquan, I never had the chance to learn that one. So what i did is after consulting with my kiak-pai Headmaster Henry Lo, I converted sam chien & other forms to wuqiquan. Instead of doing it the explosive way which is for those who want to train in the fighting aspects of NCK. I have those who wish only to train for health to perform it in a rhythmic slower phase in coodination with breathing & muscle movements. The important part is the "tan tien" need to be maintaine. Self defense training is also incorporated into it.

Wujiquan is a completely different art. Slowing down your NCK forms doesn't make it wuji. It just makes it slow NCK. It is like saying that you slowed down karate kata and now you have taiji.

[konghan]

Wujiquan is a completely different art. Slowing down your NCK forms doesn't make it wuji. It just makes it slow NCK. It is like saying that you slowed down karate kata and now you have taiji.

That is true, slowing down the sam chien to meet the needs of those who want only to train for health purposes does work. Not as slow as tai chi but but a bit faster ( seh lat ) more on rhythmic movement in coordination with breathing & body movement.

[yentao]

Video please

Why don't you share video clip of your ngo cho kun training? I'm eager to see the training in Chee Kim Thong Lineage