How many carry weapons and know how to use them?

[GonzoStyles]

Funny Jubaji how you demand personal experiances here, but dismiss them as anecdotes and "Tales from your Uncle Earl" on other threads, I guess you attempt to use them when it fits your agenda.

I have been in altercations that resulted in a stabbing and a lifeflyte helicopter ride for a good friend, I have received stiches from 2x4 (thrown)
as well as tactically retreating from being outnumbered by multiple armed assailants (no shame)
I had a freind who is doing up to 25 years for "negligent manslaughter" when he killed a much larger man with a knife in a fight.
( its a good idea to learn the differance between "self defense", and "mutual combat" in the eyes of the law) .

Does any of this mean that training in weapons is futile or some kind of paranoid response intended to be a magic cure all for self defense situations?

Or that people who train in these arts will respond blade first?

or is it a response to the reality of what can happen in a worse case, albeit infrequent encounter in the real world?

All these incidents happened in my adolescent years before I took up martial arts. This is what happened to me as a wild in the streets kid,
I have seen people get jumped on by unknown people and continue to receive a beating after they went down FOR NO REASON AT ALL.

In light of my own personal experiances I will defend myself and those I care for who are unable to defend themselves by whatever means necessary rather than place life and health in the hands of someone else.

Here in Texas it is not uncommon for people, criminals and average everyday citizens to carry knifes, as a matter of fact I can never recall having seen a Bandido MC club member without a sheathed fixed blade knife on his person.
(I frequently attend Harley Davidson only drag races)

What would you say about someone that owned a firearm and did not go to the range to gain a familiarity, confidence & proficiency with that weapon Jubaji?
Answer that question please since I was kind enough to answer yours.

[jubaji]

Funny Jubaji how you demand personal experiances here, but dismiss them as anecdotes and "Tales from your Uncle Earl" on other threads, I guess you attempt to use them when it fits your agenda..

First of all, I'm not "demanding" anything. I was asking out of simple curiosity, and you took it as a personal threat to your ego or something.

Second, my position vis-a-vis anecdotes remains unchanged. They are proof of nothing in and of themselves. As I said, I was just curious. Don't blame me for your insecurities. That's between you and your shrink.

[jubaji]

Answer that question please since I was kind enough to answer yours.

Where did you answer my question? You typed a bunch but I don't see the direct answer anywhere in there.

[GonzoStyles]

Thanks for avoiding my question after I answered yours. It proves IMO that you did have an agenda with this line of questioning.

[jubaji]

What would you say about someone that owned a firearm and did not go to the range to gain a familiarity, confidence & proficiency with that weapon Jubaji?

I would say that they were displaying poor judgement in that regard.

[jubaji]

Thanks for avoiding my question after I answered yours. It proves IMO that you did have an agenda with this line of questioning.

No really, where did you actually answer the question? You can go back and re-read post #9 if you have forgotten



And btw, I did answer your question. Sorry if it wasn't quick enough for you. I only gave you several days to answer mine.

[GonzoStyles]

you were asking if anyone had used a weapon on an unarmed assailant,
when in actuality the types of responses you described would be criminal actions since the law demands that you do everything in your power to avoid physical conflict and not to respond with an escalation of violence unless it is necessary to preserve life.
Who other than a criminal would attack an unarmed assailant with a weapon?
You would be breaking the law unless it was to save your own life or the life of another?

Curiosity? your wording suggested otherwise.

I attempted to tell in my own words why your line of questioning is irrelevent since predicting the nature of a SD situation is naive.

It also seemed to me you were suggesting that it would be the first response of a FMA practitioner to draw a blade. An assumption that would seem to be shared by other responders to your post.

[jubaji]

In other words, you did not answer my question.



And to think I was nice enough to answer yours...hmmm...

[GonzoStyles]

No Jubaji I have never had just cause to attack an unarmed person with a knife or any other weapon, but then again 99.9% of people can probably say the same thing.
To do so on any grounds besides fear of loss of life or health is a crime.
I allready told you about a friend who made that mistake and is still paying for it. I could go into details but what for? Its just more anecdotal tales that have no relevance to you by your own admission, yet you requested them out of "curiosity" once again I believe your wording suggested otherwise.

Proving again that by asking a moot and slanted question you had an underlying agenda.

[jubaji]

No Jubaji I have never had just cause to attack an unarmed person with a knife or any other weapon

Ok, got it. As long as we are on the subject, have you ever stabbed an armed person?

[GonzoStyles]

I would have included anything like that in my first detailed response of the situations I have been involved in or witnessed.

[jubaji]

I would have included anything like that in my first detailed response of the situations I have been involved in or witnessed.

So that means no, you haven't?

[GonzoStyles]

Did you see me mention any such incident or do you actually bother reading replys? Once again Jubaji I question you and your line of moot/slanted inquirys

[jubaji]

Did you see me mention any such incident or do you actually bother reading replys?

Just trying to be clear. So in conclusion, you have never shot or stabbed anyone armed or not. Is that an accurate statement?

[GonzoStyles]

Post 41 Jubaji, Post 41, sorry but I had to borrow a tactic of yours who says we cant learn anything from our digital foes? Now that you have the EXACT answer you wanted what are you gonna do with it?