Wing Chun Vs Kyokushin Karate

[KungFuFighting]

well I can understand all of you are bunch of idiots blindly following Karate and ignorant of all other martial arts well I am talking about those fake WC schools running in US. I am also aware lots of people teaching BULLSHIT in the name of authentic KF in US. come to china man and get your ass KICKED by A REAL KF Practioner.
DARR You dont need to boast about your achievements over kicking some novice KF fighters or rather poor people who dont know what they are learning in name of WC & KF. Come TO CHINA & SHOW WHETHER YOU GOT REAL GUTS IN YOUR BUTT TO FACE A KF FIGHTER.
AND For the History LOOK INTO BOOKS MAN KARATE & ALL FORMS OF KARATE IS DERIEVED FROM MARTIALS ARTS OF CHINA. IF YOU KARATE MASTER ARE UNAWARE OF THIS FACT HE IS TEACHING YOU BULLSHIT.

[HuSanYan]

Somehow people here seem to think Karate sucks majorly...well it does, but no less than most other arts especially KF

oh good grief

[Toudiyama[NL]]

well I can understand all of you are bunch of idiots blindly following Karate and ignorant of all other martial arts well I am talking about those fake WC schools running in US. I am also aware lots of people teaching BULLSHIT in the name of authentic KF in US. come to china man and get your ass KICKED by A REAL KF Practioner.
DARR You dont need to boast about your achievements over kicking some novice KF fighters or rather poor people who dont know what they are learning in name of WC & KF. Come TO CHINA & SHOW WHETHER YOU GOT REAL GUTS IN YOUR BUTT TO FACE A KF FIGHTER.
AND For the History LOOK INTO BOOKS MAN KARATE & ALL FORMS OF KARATE IS DERIEVED FROM MARTIALS ARTS OF CHINA. IF YOU KARATE MASTER ARE UNAWARE OF THIS FACT HE IS TEACHING YOU BULLSHIT.

Yup you are Sherwinc under a new name, the use of the term Fake kung fu proves that
Please go to the first Kyokushin/Seido/Enshin/Ashihara/Oyama-ryu/Kyokushin budokai gym you find and challenge them, doesn't have to be in Japan, anywhere is ok, ass-wooping garanteed

Again, show us some prove and we might be CONVINCED

I know, Karate has it's roots in CMA I already admitted that but you, like Sherwinc, claim it is a crippled KF that the Okinawans learned, this is something that can't be proved at all, what can be proved is that CMA were mixed with Okinawan MA and thus evolved into something new
As far as all the forms coming from Kung fu, from what style of KF does Seishan (13) come from and from which style the Pinan forms? Or Kushanku? Shinto? Naihanchi
Most Kata that can be traced to china are part of the Nahate curriculum, that is Goju and uechi and part of the Shito formsThe Shurite forms are harder to trace period

It is you who claims all karate is crap, we never claimed such a thing about KF
It is you and the likes of you that are blinded into thinking CMA are superior to everything the video shows otherwise

But always when KF people are defeated by other MA their KF is fake in your eys

[darrianation]

Well I am a little late here.
What the Bloody shit are you posting in name of Wing Chun KungFu ??
he looks more like a funny novice boxer coming from vietnam or thailand. he is nowhere near any form of wingchun kungfu
Why cant you Karate guys respect KungFu and accept defeat before the skills involved in it instead of showing some idiotic novice stuff claiming it as KungFu.
Any form of Karate Sucks thats final.
KungFu can beat hellout of any karate fighter DONT FORGET KARATE IS KUNGFU'S HANDICAP CHILD

Oh save the drama. Where’s your proof that KF is better than Karate?

[KungFuFighting]

Whos Sherwin and what are you guys talking about I m from India,
as per your ass whooping I m enuf for you all, dont need to prove myself if I ever get a chance to come over ther. You ARE DIRTY ROTTEN SHIT PIECE OF LIES AND LIES thats all I just came accross this website since I was searching something in google.com and your DIRTY ROTTEN PIECE OF SHIT MATERIAL hurt me. WHATever you had posted in name of WC isnt the same if you want to TASTE WC come over man I WILL SHOW YA, YOU ARE JUST ROTTEN PIECE OF SHIT DONT KNOW WHAT IS MARTIAL ARTS THATS ALL, Instead of comparing your greatness why not show ur demonstration with a REAL WC Fighter

[Toudiyama[NL]]

People without arguments or proof alway tend to revert to namecalling and shouting don't they?

[KungFuFighting]

Well KungFu is not a sport ITS DEADLY MARTIAL ARTS.
Real KungFu teachers dont teach in BIG DOJOS to attract crowd like 100s of student learning from a single master which happens in most of the KARATE DOJOs

KungFu Sifu personally teach only to few of selected students and HENCE THERE are not ENUF Material to show you the proofs. a KungFu Practitioner never boast about his Skills like the IDIOT who started this THREAD.
KungFu Practitioner remains humble bcoz its like when Elephant walks Dogs Bark but the Elephant dont care a thing abt the Dog bcoz he knows he can CRUSH him anytime he wants.
We dont go around carrying cameras to show our sparring skills.
Sorry for my bad mouth BUT I REALLY GOT HURT By that Video by the IDIOT who started this Thread who think himself as the greatest MA in world.
I hate people who boast about themselves only to gain popularity

[darrianation]

Whos Sherwin and what are you guys talking about I m from India,
as per your ass whooping I m enuf for you all, dont need to prove myself if I ever get a chance to come over ther. You ARE DIRTY ROTTEN SHIT PIECE OF LIES AND LIES thats all I just came accross this website since I was searching something in google.com and your DIRTY ROTTEN PIECE OF SHIT MATERIAL hurt me. WHATever you had posted in name of WC isnt the same if you want to TASTE WC come over man I WILL SHOW YA, YOU ARE JUST ROTTEN PIECE OF SHIT DONT KNOW WHAT IS MARTIAL ARTS THATS ALL, Instead of comparing your greatness why not show ur demonstration with a REAL WC Fighter

Troll!!! Joe troll from trollvile. So F*** off you little 13 Y/O piece of troll shit!

[Toudiyama[NL]]

That IDIOT that started this thread has more knowledge of MA and SD than you will ever know
He has shown us that he has insight and isn't confined in his thinking
He will tell you the pros and cons

Rarely have I seen a Dojo with 100 students training at the same time
And even if a school has 100 members, if the groupsize remains low enough to get the teachers attention, what's wrong with a school having 100 students, you have to pay rent, my man, maybe in India a building is cheap to rent or buy but not overhere
10-20.000 euro per scare meter per year

appart from that we have a lot of clubs here, these do not make a profit
The states aren't the only place, in Europe you will find far less McDojo

And to use your term REAL, for REAL Karate, look at Okinawa

I take it you don't consider the KF schools that are near the Shaolin monastery Real KF seeing that these are large too

Kwoons in the US tend to be just as big as the Karate Dojos MCDojo isn't limited to Karate, anything that can make a buck, BJJ will probably be one of its next victims

BTW, have you ever heard of Emin Boztepe? I take it he isn't real WT either since he was boasting his skills and carrying a videocamera to prove it

[krys]

Emin Boztepe? I take it he isn't real WT either since he was boasting his skills and carrying a videocamera to prove it

WT isn't traditional wing chun (I'm not talking the of style of the self proclaimed "GM" Cheung), I t's Leung Ting style and in my opinion not really a reference for wc.....Even in Europe there are lots of McDojos (WC and others)... just have a look at some jkd schools.

Systema seems also to be a good candidate for McDojo, it is a very good art but some guys are already proposing 2 days instructor seminars...

[KungFuFighting]

Troll!!! Joe troll from trollvile. So F*** off you little 13 Y/O piece of troll shit!

S*** YOUR BALLS MAN YOU ARE KID WHO GO AROUND BOASTING YOUR EMPTY SKILLS

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Such agressiveness, can't possibly be a Hindu, those usually are very peacefull

[sherwinc]

Such agressiveness, can't possibly be a Hindu, those usually are very peacefull

A KARATE Punch is like an IronBar that goes clannggg!!!!!!!!!!

A GUNGFU Punch is like an IronBall attached with IronChain that goes whhaaaannggggggg!!!!!!!!! and it hurts inside


by: Bruce Lee

meaning:
KungFu is superior compare to a Karate

[Toudiyama[NL]]

BTW the notion that Karate is handicaped KF comes from the idea that the chinese would never teach the japanese the full stuff, well they weren't japanese, they were okinawan, and oinawa had centuries long cultural ties with China
Also a student that isn't instucted in all the stuff, would never receive the books, yet on Okinawa one can find the Bubishi, which is a book dealing with all the aspects of Chinese gong fa (chuan fa, kung fu) including herbal medicins
the book has come trough different individual sources to Okinawa
The individual sources studied with different teachers but in the same area ( Fujian)
If Karate has less techniques ( define technique) than that is by choise, the early Karate masters decided to drop what they found superfluous and then combined it with the arts of Okinawa itself

[sherwinc]

BTW the notion that Karate is handicaped KF comes from the idea that the chinese would never teach the japanese the full stuff,

TRUE!!!!!! EXTREMELY TRUE!!!!!!! You're correct........

If Karate has less techniques ( define technique) than that is by choise, the early Karate masters decided to drop what they found superfluous and then combined it with the arts of Okinawa itself

WRONG!!!!!! EXTREMELY WRONG!!!!!!! You're wrong........
haw haw haw haw.......

so you see??????

old karate masters will never teach you all that they know cause he is stupid enought to teach you all that he knows........

so, here is an example:
if the kungfu master teach his kungfu to an okinawan student, out of 26 letters in the English Alphabet he teach the okinawan student only 8 letters - he go back to okinawa and later invented karate - then that okinawan student teach his okinawan fellow there only 4 alphabets.......

so, how can these 4 alphabets defeat the 26 overall alphabets???????