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  • Originally posted by holyman
    also they say ninja can vanish and turn invisible what shit,
    holyjubb, you need to face reality and see some more of the world, these Ninja really can do such things, you simply havent seen it.

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    • Originally posted by holyman
      also they say ninja can vanish and turn invisible what shit, they are reading too many comic books.
      The reason why many of the ninja's opponents would think ninja could turn invisible was because ninja were skilled at misdirection and the reading of body language. If cornered, they would often flick their fingers up across their opponent's eyes, essentially slapping their eyeballs with their fingertips, then make their escape. Since they were quite skilled at sneaking about and hiding (not only that, but of staying out of their opponent's peripheral vision when behind them), many of them thought they could turn invisible. Add to that ninja claimed to be tengu, the winged goblin creatures of the mountains who were said to be powerful magicians, and there you go.

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      • Originally posted by Thai Bri
        Because all the so called masters claim to be studying the ancient art, though it looks remarkably like bad Jiu Jitsu.
        That's because of the nine schools of ninjutsu, six of them are jujutsu. The nine schools include (the ones ** are closely related to jujutsu):

        TOGAKURE RYU (Hidden Door School)(Their specialties included ninpo, the katana, taijutsu, shuko and ashiko (the climbing claws) Bisento, Sakkijutsu, Metsubushi (i.e. eggshell bombs and other misdirection techniques), Shindake (the bamboo tube used for hiding and breathing underwater, Sendan Shuriken (the four-pointed shuriken designed by the Togakure ninja), and the kyoketsu shoge, which is exclusive to ninjutsu, I have not seen another style use it at all.)

        **GYOKKO RYU (Jeweled Tiger School)(This concentrates mostly on kosshijutsu, "attacks against muscles", which includes the vulnerable points of the body and pressure points, as well as concentrating on locks and throws.)

        **KOTO RYU (Tiger Knocking Down School)(This one includes hand conditioning and koppojutsu (bone attacking blocks) and concentrates mostly on striking, with the philosophy of at least three strikes for every one your opponent has thrown at you.)

        KUKISHINDEN RYU (Nine Demon School)(Concentrates mostly on defeating your opponent from a distance with weapons, i.e. the bo, ken, kusarigama, shuriken, hi (fire, including explosive devices, smoke bombs, and firearms), mizu (water, which includes poisons), taijutsu, and naginata.)

        **SHINDEN FUDO RYU (Immovable Heart School)(This mostly concentrates on defense from natural posutres, as well as restraining your opponent and hojojutsu (the art of rope tying). It also has a few weapons, including the yari, ono (war axe), o-tsuchi (war hammers), and naginata)

        **TAKAGI YOSHIN RYU (High Tree, Raised Heart School)(Related to jujutsu and aikido, this school focuses more on making it as difficult as possible for your opponent to escape your techniques by rolling or breakfalls. This was the only school to ever be trained inside a building, and the throws and locks are much closer than one would normally do outside due to the confined quarters they were often practiced in, making this school ideal for confrontations in tight quarters.)

        **GIKAN RYU (Truth, Loyalty, and Justice School)(This was a very secretive school, concentrating on secret striking points and is closely related to Gyokko Ryu. I don't know too much about it to be honest, very few do except those in the higher dan rankings.)

        **GYOKUSHIN RYU (Jeweled Heart School)(This was the school that concentrated on sutemi throws and the espionage side of ninjutsu. Their specialties were the kusari fundo, kosshijutsu, koppojutsu, kenjutsu, and iaijutsu, and also were well known for their use of the nagenawa (lasso). These teachings were loosely based off of the Gyokko Ryu as well.)

        KUMOGAKURE RYU (Hiding in the Clouds School)(This school concentrated a lot on climbing, with the use of the kamayari (hook spear) and the ippon sugi nobori, which is similar to a logging belt and allows you to climb straight up pillars and trees. Another speciality was a demon mask that practitioners would sometime wear and helped evolve the kikaku ken strike (headbutt), a part of the body which is rarely used in Japanese fighting systems.)

        So while ninjutsu does contain a lot of techniques from jujutsu, you could say the same about aikido. Or hapkido. Or chin na. Or any grappling art out there, as no matter what you do or what your "unstoppable" reality self-defense teacher says, nothing they're going to show you is new and is probably found in at least half a dozen other styles if that. It's the combination of what you learn, how you apply it, and the strategy behind it is what really formulates a style.

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        • Originally posted by koto_ryu
          The reason why many of the ninja's opponents would think ninja could turn invisible was because ninja were skilled at misdirection and the reading of body language. If cornered, they would often flick their fingers up across their opponent's eyes, essentially slapping their eyeballs with their fingertips, then make their escape. Since they were quite skilled at sneaking about and hiding (not only that, but of staying out of their opponent's peripheral vision when behind them), many of them thought they could turn invisible. Add to that ninja claimed to be tengu, the winged goblin creatures of the mountains who were said to be powerful magicians, and there you go.
          So, poking someone in the eye and running off will make them think you're invisible?

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          • Originally posted by koto_ryu
            ninja claimed to be tengu, the winged goblin creatures of the mountains who were said to be powerful magicians, and there you go.
            well, I will be dumping the JJ and Boxing and taking up Tengu-Do, ahh yes, I can see it now,
            HuSanYan the winged Goblin creature of the mountains....CONVINCED???

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            • Originally posted by koto_ryu
              **KOTO RYU (Tiger Knocking Down School)(This one includes hand conditioning and koppojutsu (bone attacking blocks) and concentrates mostly on striking, with the philosophy of at least three strikes for every one your opponent has thrown at you.)
              Only three? I know Kung Fu real Kung Fu not fake Kung Fu where ratio for fellatio is 22-2 convinced. I take your 3-1 and double it to 6-2 and still beat you as I do 22-2 convinced.

              With real Kung Fu I do you and two of you if not more than two of you convinced. So add 6 and 222 and take away 2, carry 1 over to you for the two of you I take to you convinced.

              Note:

              Only real Kung Fu for me and you not fake Kung Fu for us we two we do a few of you is more for me and less for you convinced.

              Tyson punch and had his lunch to munch and munch convinced. But real ung Fu will send him to new lunch box few convinced.

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              • Originally posted by Thai Bri
                So, poking someone in the eye and running off will make them think you're invisible?
                Kind of a crude way of thinking, and no it didn't work all the time but another thing to consider is ninja often worked in groups. So where a samurai would have one ninja pinned against a wall and about to run him through with a yari, bam, two of his buddies hit the samurai from behind and topple him to the ground, knocking him out. When he comes to, typically he'd have no idea what happened and some of them assumed it was the lone ninja. Much of what was passed around by the ninja themselves was also false information, as the more scary and supernatural they seemed the less people would want to mess with them.

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                • Originally posted by Thai Bri
                  Only three? I know Kung Fu real Kung Fu not fake Kung Fu where ratio for fellatio is 22-2 convinced. I take your 3-1 and double it to 6-2 and still beat you as I do 22-2 convinced.
                  If you honestly think someone's going to sit there and let you hit them 22 times in a row consecutively, then yeah I guess you're brutal. If you've ever even sparred or, dare I say, fought in real-life, you'd know the most hits you're ever going to land at one time is a four-hit combination, five if you're really lucky.

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                  • No you no listen with ears of real Kung Fu you listen with ears of fake Kung Fu convinced.

                    I say 22-2 to you for two and 22-3 for three I see. For those I don't see may be you or me but three is three convinced.

                    If I hit you 22-2 and you get three I get 33-3 convinced you see I not fake Kung Fu but real Kung Fu like fake Ninjitsu to you for two convinced?

                    Note - with Ninja merely having 8 alphabets, but real Kung Fu having 20 I beat you 5-2 convinced.

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                    • Originally posted by Thai Bri
                      No you no listen with ears of real Kung Fu you listen with ears of fake Kung Fu convinced.

                      I say 22-2 to you for two and 22-3 for three I see. For those I don't see may be you or me but three is three convinced.

                      If I hit you 22-2 and you get three I get 33-3 convinced you see I not fake Kung Fu but real Kung Fu like fake Ninjitsu to you for two convinced?

                      Note - with Ninja merely having 8 alphabets, but real Kung Fu having 20 I beat you 5-2 convinced.
                      ^^ Remember kids: Don't mix your medications with alcohol or you'll end up like this. Cause I have no f-ing idea what you just said.

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                      • Said not dead if bumped his head with real Kung Fu convinced.

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                        • You cant mess with Sher-Thai-Bri...He'll fight you on tire, and forearm smash and with double whammy butterfly kick to neck..Convinced?????

                          But his real kung-fu is only for killing..killing...killing-one poke to eyeball and run away. convinced???

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                          • Note:

                            Butterfly kick not kick to hit but over hit with force of 1.

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                            • Originally posted by HtTKar
                              You cant mess with Sher-Thai-Bri...He'll fight you on tire, and forearm smash and with double whammy butterfly kick to neck..Convinced?????

                              But his real kung-fu is only for killing..killing...killing-one poke to eyeball and run away. convinced???
                              tis words like this that comfort HSY no end, because they blatently confirm that HSY is not the only one with diabolical mental disorders
                              *phew*

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