Ninjutsu for Self Defense

[jubaji]

Nor are unilateral proclamations that you yourself seem so fond of

Could you point out one of these "proclamations"?

[Ninpo Ikan]

Have you ever read the book? If not, how would you know then? A bit illogical on your part, wouldn't you say?

[jubaji]

How are they irrational? You just SAY they are, you don't prove anything All you do is whine and complain that everything is incorrect but you don't strive to show me anything different.

You seem to have no grasp of basic logic. I was not making any counter-proposals, I was merely seeking to clarify your own statements. You seem to be unable to do so. Are you demanding that I now make an irrational statement just to make you feel better?

I'm not sure where you see "complaining", in asking you to support your own words. Is it really such a burden for you?

[Ninpo Ikan]

Quoted by jubaji:
So, you saw him fight once and you know he "could floor the average no-holds-barred fighter without even losing his cool"? I'm not sure your statistical calculations are completely orthodox.

How are they not then? You just say all these things and never back up your side. This is just one of the many spread out, aside from your silly questions about what type of screwdriver it hurts more to get stabbed with. I'm sure asking that excellent question will enlighten many people

[jubaji]

Have you ever read the book?

Yes I have. That is not really the key to this issue, however, as no book could meet the exaggerrated claims you seek to make.

[Ninpo Ikan]

Like I have said I have supported all of mine. I feel no further need to do so to quell the petty desires of someone who obviously does not care about what the answers are. All of your posts are like that, you're just the student in the back of the class that shouts out the occasional smart-ass remark thinking in some small way it might make you more popular when all it does is annoy others as you add nothing to any discussion you're in.

[Ninpo Ikan]

As a beginning student, you'd ask about all that is covered there: whats the history, whats the stances, attacks, stretching, training, weapons, techniques, who's important in it, when did it start, how did it come about, etc. If he's just trying to learn the difference between kung fu and ninjutsu, I think that book will suffice well enough.

[Ninpo Ikan]

So then, Mega-Grandmaster jubaji, why don't you share with us all you know? You seem to be a wealth of information, I'm going to sell my house and my Camaro and come train under you as you seem to know so much and be one of the greatest martial artists who ever lived

[jubaji]

Quoted by jubaji:
So, you saw him fight once and you know he "could floor the average no-holds-barred fighter without even losing his cool"? I'm not sure your statistical calculations are completely orthodox.

How are they not then? You just say all these things and never back up your side.

What is "my side" to back up? I am looking at your claim, not making a counter-claim (though you seem oddly desperate for me to do so).

Now, you said you "knew" your friend could "floor" the average nhb fighter even though you had no evidence of him ever testing himself against a nhb fighter. In fact, you can only point to one instance of him ever being in any kind of fight, which suggests that he doesn't have a hell of a lot of actual fighting experience. How do you make the leap from this paper-thin evidence of fighting ability to the claim of certainty against fighters he has never faced? Doesn't seem logical to me. I am asking you to explain this inconsistency. I am not making an oppositional claim, like "I'm sure your friend cannot beat an average nhb fighter" (though you seem to want me to say that). Why is this such a problem for you?

[jubaji]

Like I have said I have supported all of mine.

How have you done so? If this is merely your personal belief (as you seem to have admitted recently), that is fine. Don't try to make it anything more and you'll be all right.

[jubaji]

As a beginning student, you'd ask about all that is covered there:

You see that this statement requires you to know, without a doubt, all possible questions that could be asked by a beginning student, right?. That doesn't strike you as a little unreasonable?

[Ninpo Ikan]

I have said the guy was a no-rules fighter, not fully sanctioned NHB from say the UFC or others, but the more no-rules type that I did when I was in the Marine Corps in Okinawa and Thailand, which is to say a lot less strict and a lot bloodier. And I know he can, because, as I have explained, he has been training for 30 years and has powerful, fast, and accurate techniques. The average NHB fighter trains in muay thai and BJJ, and spends the rest of his time pumping up in the weightroom, building big muscles but not functional strength. I am merely giving you one example, if you choose not to take it to heart, don't. I'm only presenting things, you make up your own mind. No need to make an enormous issue out of one thing someone presented just because you cannot fathom your UFC heroes getting defeated.

I am confident in what I know as I have been trained by very influential teachers and have traveled to Tibet to seek out further knowledge in spirituality and awareness, not learned my martial arts history from watching UFC 36. In the meantime, I don't have the whole day to be typing away and proving points to some high school kid, I have a client who needs a security evaluation of their home. I hope you find someday the courage to express your own opinions, jubaji, rather than just pick apart everyone else's because they don't match your own.

[jubaji]

So then, Mega-Grandmaster jubaji, why don't you share with us all you know? You seem to be a wealth of information,

I do? I don't see how I seem that way. I haven't made any proclamations, I have only questioned you about yours. You seem threatened by this, though I don't know why. Perhaps you are insecure?

[jubaji]

I'm going to sell my house and my Camaro and come train under you

Are you hoping that I'm impressed that you have a Camaro? Or is this just random information like the type of screwdriver you mentioned before?

[Ninpo Ikan]

Wow, you don't get sarcasm very well do you? LOL.