Karate- what chances does it stand on the street?

[Tom Yum]

Good luck also catching a Shaolin/Taoist KungFu's kicking shin!

I'm not making claims about grabbing muay thai fighters shins in midkick, allthough it can be done but not by holding your hands up and catching it

Hey, whadya makin in the kitchen these days?

[brokenelbow]

Firstly it is a little hard to simultaneously block a kick and strike, as the leg is longer than the arm. And his upper body is leaning away from you...... It can be done if you step into the attack of course, but that is not what this thread is about.

You're still thinking in terms of your school boy karate. You did get the idea in the last part though. Don't think blocks, don't think standing there waiting for the kick. It's pre-emptive. You can also block the kick and respond with a leg attack of your own against his base or kicking leg.

The well known combination (not that you seem to know it) is for someone to start to throw a front kick AND THEN simultaneously convert it to a round kick. As your li'l old arm waves about (and regardless of any simultaneous strike you throw) the shin takes your head off.

Know it well. Like you stumbled upon above, you move in. A knee to the inside of the thigh of the kicking leg works wonders to take the steam out of most. Will it work against everyone, no, but then nothing does.

Believe me I know. I am STILL conditioned to throw down blocks no matter how hard I try to rid myself of the curse. Who says any training is better than no training?

Either your school was really bad or you were. Would you like a scone?

[Thai Bri]

Yes please.

But you've gone off at a tangent. We are talking about whether a forearm can block a Thai shin kick. We are NOT talking about pre emption or evasion. You silly boy.

[DrAgOn-T]

I don't think a full on thai kick can be blocked by a forearm, thai kicks are just to powerful, elbows definately. kicks can be deflected by forearms but I don't think full out blocked

[darrianation]

Just about anything can be blocked! It just depends on how much damage and pain you want to suffer!

[sherwinc]

Yes please.

But you've gone off at a tangent. We are talking about whether a forearm can block a Thai shin kick. We are NOT talking about pre emption or evasion. You silly boy.

how about blocking the MuayThai Kicking ShinBone using your head??????

since only a Human Dummy can do that "using their head to block opponents shinbone" is VALID!!!! compare to blocking an opponents shinbone with their forearm......

[sherwinc]

I don't think a full on thai kick can be blocked by a forearm, thai kicks are just to powerful, elbows definately. kicks can be deflected by forearms but I don't think full out blocked

then you may use your head to block opponent's shinbone

Human Dummy for a new martial arts of today

[sherwinc]

Just about anything can be blocked! It just depends on how much damage and pain you want to suffer!

perhaps, what good things can you get for only 6 months of training???????

that's the reason why you suffer for your personal damages..........

[brokenelbow]

I hate the entire karate blocking thing. Uke doesn't mean to "block" it means "to receive". Anybody that uses force on force against a bigger, stronger limb is a loon.

[darrianation]

perhaps, what good things can you get for only 6 months of training???????

that's the reason why you suffer for your personal damages..........

Yea, try blocking a crow bar or a tire iron with your forearms.

My injuries have come from hard intense training and putting my money where my mouth is. I live in the real world where being attacked by multiple armed assailants you don't do a couple of flying upside dragon kicks and walk away unscathed.

You can live in your fantasy world because in the real world with how naive you are, against real bad ass’s intent and committed on hurting you you'll be killed.

[sherwinc]

Yea, try blocking a crow bar or a tire iron with your forearms.

My injuries have come from hard intense training and putting my money where my mouth is. I live in the real world where being attacked by multiple armed assailants you don't do a couple of flying upside dragon kicks and walk away unscathed.

You can live in your fantasy world because in the real world with how naive you are, against real bad ass’s intent and committed on hurting you you'll be killed.

In TaiChiChuan KungFu:

Neutralizing a thousand TONS of power using only 5 OUNCHES of strength.....

Thanks, you are already CONVINCED!!!!!!

[Toudiyama[NL]]

In TaiChiChuan KungFu:

Neutralizing a thousand TONS of power using only 5 OUNCHES of strength.....

Thanks, you are already CONVINCED!!!!!!

After 50 years of training maybe but before that...."human dummy"

but lets take your Äsumption"and analise it, Neutralizing a thousand TONS of power using only 5 OUNCHES of strength would imply that a tai chi person could stop an oncomming truck with ease seeing that will only weigh a couple of tons
Now that would be a demonstration to look foreward to can you say "Roadkill"?

[sherwinc]

After 50 years of <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=training&v=56">training</a> maybe but before that...."human dummy"

but lets take your Äsumption"and analise it, Neutralizing a thousand TONS of power using only 5 OUNCHES of strength would imply that a tai chi person could stop an oncomming truck with ease seeing that will only weigh a couple of tons
Now that would be a demonstration to look foreward to can you say "Roadkill"?

Haw Haw Haw Haw Haw.......

this is one of the best follow-up questions that i am expected......

here is my answer......

my answer serves as an another question.......

Question:
1. If i say "Soft like a cotton on the outside, yet Hard as steel on the inside"

or.....

a needle wrapped by a cloth.....?????

Here is another example:
According to Genesis: God made the World and everything in just 7 days...... now, most of us we meant that God made it in just seven days but its not...... instead, the truth is - that God made the World and everything in just 7million years..... since 1 day to us is just 1 day..... but for God - 1 day is 1 million years........

Now......

if i say:
Karate punch hit the opponents chest and then the opponent falls......
while....
KungFu punch hit the opponents chest and the kungfu punch drill a hole on the opponents chest and the fist goes out up to the back of the opponent

how about if i say:
the gentleness of the sun is much more powerful compare to the forceful windy blows of the wind.........

here is another follow-up:
to fight and win a thousands of battles is not good,
it is better to win a combat without fighting........

now, if you cant get what i mean, then its your problem, i see that you cant block some kungfu hand attack combinations.......

This is what i mean before that KungFu is the most superior of all martial arts cause even a simple logic quote non-kungfu martial art still cant understand..... meaning...... a simple kungfu combo non-kungfu cant block while non-kungfu hand combinations is all blocked by a kungfu......

[Thai Bri]

I think he means that the Kung Fu Master would get splattered by the truck.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Haw Haw Haw Haw Haw.......

this is one of the best follow-up questions that i am expected......

here is my answer......

my answer serves as an another question.......

Question:
1. If i say "Soft like a cotton on the outside, yet Hard as steel on the inside"

or.....

a needle wrapped by a cloth.....?????

Sounds like a stale chocolate bar

Here is another example:
According to Genesis: God made the World and everything in just 7 days...... now, most of us we meant that God made it in just seven days but its not...... instead, the truth is - that God made the World and everything in just 7million years..... since 1 day to us is just 1 day..... but for God - 1 day is 1 million years........

Sorry am an atheist, god doesn't excist so the truth is God didn't create anything

Also G.W.Bush thinks the 6 day ( not 7, the 7th was a resting day) creation was 6 days not longer or shorter ( he is a BA christian)

Now......

if i say:
Karate punch hit the opponents chest and then the opponent falls......
while....
KungFu punch hit the opponents chest and the kungfu punch drill a hole on the opponents chest and the fist goes out up to the back of the opponent

how about you stop believing in fairytales? I would be more inclined to believe you if you would have mentioned pressurepointstrikes

how about if i say:
the gentleness of the sun is much more powerful compare to the forceful windy blows of the wind.........

Gentleness of the sun? you got to be joking, there's nothing gentle about the sun


[/QUOTE]
here is another follow-up:
to fight and win a thousands of battles is not good,
it is better to win a combat without fighting........[/QUOTE]

this is what almost any asian MA teaches, and avoided fight is a won fight

now, if you cant get what i mean, then its your problem, i see that you cant block some kungfu hand attack combinations.......

this is what i mean before that KungFu is the most superior of all martial arts cause even a simple logic quote non-kungfu martial art still cant understand..... meaning...... a simple kungfu combo non-kungfu cant block while non-kungfu hand combinations is all blocked by a kungfu......

well it seems that this is something that depends on the KF style
Plus, how would you know that you can block all non KF attacks if you don't engage in multistyle events on a regular basis (AKA MMA events)