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what is the difference between tkd and karate. i hear they are similar. i am wanting to start taking okinawan karate ( shorin ryu ), but if karate is really like tkd then i would rather slip on vommit than waste my time taking it. I know 2 tkd guys, and they are both turds. can someone tell me what the difference is?
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Main difference is that in general TKD practices more kicking techniques, not to say that you won't be doing plenty in karate. Really it's going to depend on the teacher on what you'd be doing in class. Some like to get into the self defence/ sparring aspect others are more like dancing classes. It really depends on what your looking for, do you want purely self defence or do you like the traditions/ ideals. The only advice I can give you is to go and check it out. Even if it is a mix in between you can learn a fair bit and incorporate more strenuous conditioning if you so choose.
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As a matter of lineage, Karate was developed from Okinawan martial arts - it was "Japanified" and taken to the bigger Japanese islands and trained in colleges as a physical education course. TKD was derived from Karate, after being "Koreanified" and then marketed in Korea.
I agree with LoneWolf1 - there is more emphasis on kicks in TKD. Other than that, it will depend on what the teacher's emphasis is - if you're interested in learning the art for self-defence, I recommend you ask the teacher what self-defence applications they teach.
I do know from high-level competitions (World Karate Federation Vs Olympic TKD), there is a lot more contact in the Karate comps than in the TKD ones.
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i am more intersted in self defence. I am not interested in competitions. when i want to test myself i will either have a full blow fight with this buddy of mine ( who i am not ashamed to say can whoop me ), or pick a fight with one of my older sisters guy-friends. I am also not interested in fancy high jump kicks and laying on swords while i break bricks, ( like on espn ). so to sum it all up, i want to have the ability to injure people.Comment
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It depends on how your are built. Are you naturally flexible? Yes, then you would do good in tkd. Tkd=korean and karate=Japan. Basically, If you don't respect tkd then you should stay away from it and take something else. Flexibiliy can be developed through training but it helps to have some natural flexibilty. tkd is for the extremely flexible individual.
Any art is better than no art. there is no bad art and everyone thinks that their art is the best art.Comment
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im not flexible at all. i am a weight lifter, with a messed up back. im not going to start MA until it heals more. plus, i am not exactly built for jumping and really moving at all. this is the reason i have done grappling. i am just wanting to add to my striking ability. i cant depend on strength alone.Comment
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Ahh i know this one! When Korea was taken over by Japan back in the day, they took the Korean art of kicking and added their hand techniques, +, the hand techs. of different Chinese arts......... so in general they have a lot of likeness in the kicking but there are a lot of differences in the hand stuff between straight karate and tkd. Also, twd focuses more on kicking to head more than anytthing else, thats kind of the goal in most dojangs, while in karate thats not the main focus. tkd ususally has better kicking skills than karate, and karate has a lot better ability in hand work.Comment
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tkd vs karate
Here is an old link to one of my first posts. The entire thread is about tkd vs karate so it might help you decide for yourself.
Having studied both I would recommend karate over tkd any day. Since you are self defense orientated try to find a school that focuses on more full contact sparring than competition sparring. The full contacting training will help your self defense needs more than training for sport competitions will. This is because competition karate is all sport orientated and they usually don't allow full contact blows. They are taught to pull all their punches and kicks. Whereas training full contact will give you the experience and mental conditioning that can be more applied in a self defense situation.Comment
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Actually, if all you're after is stand-up techniques to supplement your grappling experience, why don't you see if you can find a Muay Thai or kickboxing school? That sounds ideal for what you're after.Comment
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I can't just depend on strength alone? And you are a grappler?Originally posted by zhorner
I'm not built for moving at all.... and you are a grappler? and you want to learn to strike? There are lots of big guys that have great footwork.
Anyways, I'd like to hear about this grappling that is all about strength and requires no mobility. Even sumo requires technique and footwork.Comment
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this "grappling" that i trained in was more or less a "ground and pound" type of fighting. it went something like this......wait for them to punch/kick, double leg takedown, work your way up to their face, elbow to the troat to tire them, then pound their face. It was similar to what you will find at Pride Fighting. My strength background helped out tremendously. i am 19, and trained with this one 28 year old fellow who studdied some kind of MA over in china for a few years. anywho, even though he was better at takedowns, i could still hang with him good, often beating him. And he could bench bress 325. But sometimes 325 just cant compare. That is the strength aspect, the immobile aspect comes from me not liking to shoot in on someone. I would rather trade blows until i can get them to lower their head ( maybe head-snap them ), or drag an arm and get behind them, then the fight is usually over, strikes to the back of the head dont feel good. I call it grappling b/c i dont know what else to call it, plus grappling is so much easier to say than wrestling with striking. it was tought by a successful powerlifter ( 700 pound bench, as well as more weight on deadlift/squat, at 275 pounds) as well as a very good wrestler ( oklahoma open winner ). To conclude, my particular take on this fighting style relied on strength due to my lack of mobility. Yes mobility would help out alot. Yes i didnt train on takedown b/c of my back. and yes TKD sucks.Comment
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was that supposed to prove something, or where you just trying to brang?Comment
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i was trying to answer some of badgerfu's questions, read all of the replies you turd.Comment
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Take up a hobby, find a nice girl and buy a shotgun. There all your problems solved.Originally posted by zhornerComment
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what the hell are you talking about? please clarify your postOriginally posted by brokenelbowComment
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