brick breaking

[GonzoStyles]

black belt or not, in my opinion, Mr.Spear is dead on when he states that you shouldn't do ANY breaking at that age, your bones/joints could be damaged/deformed. Bone spurs, tendonitis, etc. I realize it can be a great confidence builder, but are the risks worth it? and does it really translate over to being able to hit your opponent hard? My Ajarn told me of a challenge match in Thailand where the Chinese fighters did a breaking demo before the fights, the Thai were most impressed with the breaking of coconuts with finger spears! yet all the chinese competitors were soundly defeated. "We cannot flow our chi with gloves on, we kindly request a rematch" results of the rematch? the Chi couldnt flow through the handwraps either I guess! my point is? the breaking skill had little, if nothing to do with the fight.

[seppuku]

im always a little wary of black belts at that age. the youngest ive seen was 16, at shotokan karate. i hated that club.. if you failed a grading you got to wear the next belt anyway to make yourself feel better, stuff like that. still, if you know what your doing, go for it. your dojo might be everything you think it is. be warned tho, most martial arts fail utterly at self defence. im not suggesting you quit what your doing, but maybe try muay thai or even just boxing to contrast with the style. then punching hard without gloves is a good trick, and when you need to fight outside youll do a lot better. just my opinion.

in case anyones wondering, i got to orange belt in shotokan, judo and ju-jitsu before i left them all (not all at the same time). im not at muay thai, in a club that doesnt grade students. but im far happier in a fight with muay thai than i ever was with karate or ju-jitsu


all that lot aside, id like to give breaking a try. any suggestions on technique? ive never had the chance to try it. and would really like to be able to break through an inch thick plank (pine)

and yeah... **** YOU JUBAJI

[blackbelt22]

the reason all the black brlts are so young isbecause they all started when they were 7 or 8.it is a school designed for youth.and that doesnt mean all we do is childish stuff we learn all the real stuff too

[BoarSpear]

the reason all the black brlts are so young isbecause they all started when they were 7 or 8.it is a school designed for youth.and that doesnt mean all we do is childish stuff we learn all the real stuff too

there is nothing wrong with starting at 7 or 8 its a little late but hey The point is that until have matured into at least your late teens to early 20's you arent mentally prepared to handle the skills you have or even understand the things you know. a black belt should be the Master of himself and the space around him, thats hard to achieve without as much mental work as physical work.

No one is dissing you, youre off the couch and in the dojo. as you get older if you keep an open mind you can add to those skills. The complaint is the teachers who award black belts to kids...high brown, fine...black can wait until you graduate high school at least. black belts used to mean something, today its a joke. the founders of some arts were never 10th degree anything....so it wont hurt to wait awhile on that first one teachers award black belts to kids because parents want it...its become a business not a science.

[Garland]

The point is that until have matured into at least your late teens to early 20's you arent mentally prepared to handle the skills you have or even understand the things you know.

Or...you could end up like me...in the late teens, going into the early twenties...and be mentally incapable of anything.

[shaolin-warrior]

hes just pointing out the discrace of "demos" at mcdojos. the whole 4 year blackbelt thing ect... I mean, on this forum we talk about all martial arts, not the one branch of air punching high kicking brick breaking 7-11 black belting shit your being taught, this is a terrable awakening but you must not know what legit. martial arts are, and you should study those, further yourself in the RIGHT directing, not in this BS. You will get bashed out here just because we all recognize how much bulshit your dojo is, and you in time will realize the same, i can only pray.

way to go!!
My son is fifteen and my daughter is 12,(BOTH BLACK BELTS, IT TOOK SEVEN YEARS) ALL THEY BREAK IS EACH OTHERS STONES.

[blackbelt22]

thanks, i just recently turned 15.do you think breaking is good in martial arts?i've realized a lot of people dont on this website

[shaolin-warrior]

are you into it? If so thats cool. You can end up with some problems later on from it, but alot of kids are into worse things than that. But just remember, an attacker isn't going to be holding a brick for you to break, he's going to try to break you with the brick.

[eXcessiveForce]

Well I usually don't get involved in this type of thread but I will weigh in.

First, conditioning for breaking is stupid. This is what leads to problems later.

Second breaking while not important is generally pretty safe if done correctly. Also generally breaking is not done very often in schools. Maybe a couple times a month so it usually isnt' a problem for bones or joints.

Third, I wonder what is harder on your joints BJJ or Breaking. I've seen pleny of joints get damaged in BJJ I've only seen on Joint get trashed and that guy was in his 40's

Fouth you suggest Muay Thai, I wonder which is harder on your bones, Clashing shins or breaking once in awhile.

Fifth, since blackbelt is often the beginning of training you blackbelts really aren't anything new. Nor do they necessarily mean MCdojo.

Personally I began training at 4 years old I had almost reached blackbelt level by eight. I moved and by choice restarted at a different style school at white belt I progressed a little over half way through the ranks before changing to back to a school teaching the original style I started in. I again restarted at white belt and soon progressed to blackbelt. By 15 I was teaching full time for my instructor. By 16 I opened my own full time school. My first tournament I took students too All of the students won. The second through fifth tournament all my students one. By 19 I was teaching martial arts for college credit. The point of all this is get off your high horses. Just because someone is young does not mean necessarily that they cannot know their material well. (you also don't have to be a great fighter to train people. Boxing trainers are rarely proboxers.)

Anyway, let people chose their own path. Try offering encouragement rather than sarcasm. These young people are training and one day they will be the future instructors. helping them develop and grow is much more useful to promoting the extension of martial arts than making fun of them.

[bbbb]

Yes.

I am 14 and i can break 8 scalloped bricks with spacers and my sensei thinks i can do 10. is this good?

You're a good boy. Now, don't go hanging out in pub's though!!

[shaolin-warrior]

To excessive force:
Wow. thats quite impressive. Great advice and I agree age or the lack of it only works to your advantage......

[Kotaro]

Boxing trainers are rarely proboxers.

Mine is.

[Garland]

well...I guess breaking bricks is better than sniffing glue.

[HtTKar]

Very well said Ex, and quite impressive.
Good role models are hard to find