People bash aikido but im interested...

[bbbb]

I would like to try aikido:

I would like to learn the "Breath throw's".

Are they the hardest technique to learn, or the best technique in the aikido arsenal?

What would be one of the most valuable technique's to learn?

Could someone tell me the value of, say 3 year's worth of training in Aikido!?

Thanx.

[shadowkiller]

In 3 years depending on how much time and effort you put into it you can have a 2nd degree BB. This in itself doesnt say much but you do learn quickly and from my sensei(only second degree) I have learned quite a lot. Its an effective art if you can understand how to employ it. My experience only rest with Ki society. Its a rather different system then aikikai or Yoshinkan, what I mean is that Ki society doesn't focus as much on the circular movements that both of the other two I named do.

Ki society focus's more on gravity, when throwing is concerned. The techniques from say Ki society and aikikai are similar but how a member of the ki society would do the technique usually takes less time. Instead of spinning the opponent to take them off balance you would just use a half turn and then use your weight to drop and off balance them.

Again as I said my experience only relates to Ki society but one of my good friends studied yoshinkan for 6 months before going over to Ki society and according to him the techniques are easiler to learn in Ki society.

But even if you only take a few things away from aikido, the rolls are something that are very worthwhile to learn. They are like any other kind of roll, very similiar to ninjitsu; but are very useful. I have started doing a bit of parkour in my spare time and let me tell you some of the drops I have done would have left me with some broken bones if I hadn't have learned to roll properly.

Hope this helps a little bit. But as everyone says on this forum you won't know unless you try.

[jubaji]

In 3 years depending on how much time and effort you put into it you can have a 2nd degree BB. .

Smells like McDojo.

[shadowkiller]

It was free so I know it wasn't a mcdojo. He was just trying to get off the ground as a school, he just has a few students one or two that have been training off and on in Ki society for about 8 years. they are not nearly as good as the Sensei. We only have 8 members so the only thing we end up paying for is helping the Sensei pay for tatami. The space we train at is in a chinese community centre downtown Toronto.

Its not a mcdojo though I know that at least. I have trained in a few of them, the worst being karate so far.

[jubaji]

In 3 years depending on how much time and effort you put into it you can have a 2nd degree BB. .

Smells like McDojo.

[Hikage]

Is there an echo?

[Tant01]

I think it's just Ju being Ju.


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[IPON]

In 3 years depending on how much time and effort you put into it you can have a 2nd degree BB.

It usually takes 5-8 years for the BB in Aikido much less a 2nd you could not get a 2nd degree BB even at a McDojo or Mc Dojang in 3 years unless its mailorder

[jubaji]

It usually takes 5-8 years for the BB in Aikido much less a 2nd you could not get a 2nd degree BB even at a McDojo or Mc Dojang in 3 years unless its mailorder

Why didn't I think of that?

[shadowkiller]

I am just taking my info from my sensei. Are you a member of Ki society?

When training with Jason I was told that if me and my friend kept training as much as we did we would have a BB in 6 months to a year. At the time we were training only twice a week but we were the only two being taught by Sensei. So I guess what I was basing this on was me being given an individual lesson from my Sensei for 3 years. This usually wouldn't be the case but I was using my experience.

If you would like to check out his credentials

http://ki-aikido.net/KS-USA/Directory.html#Canada

Its the toronto Ki society and if I recall most of his training was done at the kingston Ki society under Bill Bickford Sensei. At the moment he trains a few times a year with Koichi Kashiwaya Sensei usually just during seminars.

Hes been doing Aikido for 9 years now and started training in Yoshinkan. Look if you don't believe me look it up. I was just going from what I was told ok.

But again the toronto Ki society is not a mcdojo.

[jubaji]

I was told that if me and my friend kept training as much as we did we would have a BB in 6 months to a year. .

LOL

You want fries with that?

[shadowkiller]

Nope...

Would like to actually do some research to back up crass comments like that?

[jubaji]

I got a great deal for ya on a used bridge!

Nope...

Would like to actually do some research to back up crass comments like that?

Six months to earn a BB in Aikido and you think I'm out of line to call McDojo? You must be the biggest sucker of all time!

[shadowkiller]

so your telling me that you could not get a BB with six months of individual lessons with a sensei?

Not sure if you were aware but a BB in Aikido is considered beginner. That is when you start to actually learn most of the techniques and how to pull them off well.

Your journey to BB is basically just learning the basic movements and learning not to hurt Ukemi. A BB isn't really a huge accomplishment in a lot TMA's. It is just proving that you are ready to recieve the comprehensive teachings. I know this doesn't apply to BJJ for example. But it does for Aikido.

Again my friend have you ever studied Aikido in the toronto Ki society? Just asking, cause if you haven't there isn't much you can base anything on. If you haven't been there you do not know.

[jubaji]

so your telling me that you could not get a BB with six months of individual lessons with a sensei? .

Oh man, what a farce. What's worse than a McDojo? Dojoke. You are describing a dojoke.