Karate Useless?

[jubaji]

Take the top ranked okes i would like to use Steven Seagal as an example i am not sure he is in shape but if he is and he walks in some dojo whatever style he will be respected not for what they think of him or the movies but everybody knows he can do what he says he can..
Argue that one with prove pls.

"Steven Seagal"?! You're kidding, right?

[Slavez3ro]

Its impossible to master martial arts. You will always have something you need to improve and things you are good at. So you shouldnt call your sensei or teacher a master because they need to improve too. Nobody is perfect. And nobody has ever mastered martial arts.

You are right and i agree i am not saying he is invincible but u must be pretty good and well conditione to be the man when he is there.
Sorry if some okes feel that he is a wimp or something similar but i watch that dvd of the time he was in Japan spectacular i say..

The path beyond thought

[jubaji]

???????????

Somebody never switched off their TV back in the 80s and went outside for fresh air.

[GranFire]

I love these arguments...which is better in a street fight...

Probably a gun and a truck...really.

OK, having said that...

The benefits of practicing Martial Arts on a regular basis in terms of self defense is that you get toned and in shape. You do practice to hit people and you get hit (sometimes hurt) int he process. That gives you a greater chance not to freeze in a dangerous situation. Besides, it gives person a different Aura, they carry themselfs in a different manner, making them not as likely to become a victim.

IMHO it does not matter too much what you do, as long as you enjoy enough to work hard on it.

[Slavez3ro]

???????????

Somebody never switched off their TV back in the 80s and went outside for fresh air.

Who would u say has something else that is so special and Good that u get bored when i mention Steven.

[jubaji]

Who would u say has something else that is so special and Good that u get bored when i mention Steven.

Are you really serious?

[kurt_myers0369]

Ive said this before and I'll say it again... I love Muay Thai and BJJ, but if you want to learn a MA strictly for self-defense in real-life situations, go with a weapon-based filipino style, ie. atienza or sayoc kali, and carry a blade. Their techniques are simply devastating, even against multiple attackers. (check out the vids on atienza kali's website)

[GranFire]

If you are in need of defense against multiple attackers you need to move and rethink your life startegy.

[Slavez3ro]

Are you really serious?

Yes....

Who and what style does he do..

[jubaji]

Yes....

Who and what style does he do..

LOL

Ok, kid. Run along now.

[kurt_myers0369]

Once again meaningless drivel... Why dont you run along now child? You don't contribute anything. Pathetic.

[ciscodog]

ok my 2 cents worth, Im working out at a Shorin Ryu dojo. Now we do have full contact sparring, along with kata, sets, etc. I grew up Thai boxing for 15 years, and the Karate school was a big change. Not all techniques work the same for people, why you ask, because people are diffrent sizes, weight, power etc. One thing we preach is that you cant fight in a traditional stance. There is a night and day diffrence between forms and fighting. I still prefer my Thai roundhouse vs the shorin ryu but will practice what is being taught that day, and when it comes time for our smokers, switch back to what i prefer. No one style has all the answers and everything can be countered. It is up to the person to decide what wil work best for them in a given situation, be it Thai, Shorin Ryu, BJJ, etc. In my expeirenc if the rules are strictly stand up, the Karate folks will whip a BJJ student, but if its a ground fight the BJJ will have the advantage unless the Karate student is wise enough to realize that his style is not the answer, but rather one peice in a puzzle, and has mde a point to learn takedowns, sprawling etc. Chuck Liddell is a great example of knowing lots but using what works for him.