Principle of Flow VS One Punch, One Kill

[ScottUK]

Legal angle or not, this is developing into a ridiculous argument.

I don't practice my art for self-defence. There IS more to MA than streetfighting you know...

[Hardball]

Hmm, not sure how the police would view your theory if it was applied to my art. They would probably frown on my razor-sharp-sword street-altercation-defence...

In the past I have done a lot of time on the mat. These days - just weapons.

Well if your attacker has his own weapon (hopefully a firearm) then you meet force with force. You are still on the defense. Especially if you have more than one attacker. <<<Legal angle>>>>>

[ScottUK]

Hmm, not sure how the police would view your theory if it was applied to my art. They would probably frown on my razor-sharp-sword street-altercation-defence...

In the past I have done a lot of time on the mat. These days - just weapons.

[Hardball]

The original question:All depends on the discipline. Even though it is not a street combative art, what we do is very much a one hit principle. There is zero requirement for 'flow'.

Traditional or not; I have to believe that everyone studying anytype of martial art has as a primary or secondary goal----"To be able to defend myself in a street altercation"

[ScottUK]

The original question:

O.K. for you strikers on the fourm which do you believe is a more sound principle, Flow or one punch, one kill?

All depends on the discipline. Even though it is not a street combative art, what we do is very much a one hit principle. There is zero requirement for 'flow'.

[Hardball]

This one hit wonder bullshit may work as a sucker punch but squared off with someone it's pretty unlikely.

Isn't that how the majority of Street Fights begin and end? LOL

[WildWest.]

I don't remember reading that in Go Rin no Sho. In addition to that, it is also not done in Musashi's swordsmanship style.

I was only acknowledging what The Judo Jibboo posted about C2 methods being similar to what Musashi said/wrote. If it is incorrect then my mistake.

[ScottUK]

I like the C2 (Musashi) approach as well. If you've hit one area once then do it again and again and again.

I don't remember reading that in Go Rin no Sho. In addition to that, it is also not done in Musashi's swordsmanship style.

[WildWest.]

I like the C2 (Musashi) approach as well. If you've hit one area once then do it again and again and again. I like the easy combos you learn in boxing and MT as well. Simple, natural, fast and powerful.

This one hit wonder bullshit may work as a sucker punch but squared off with someone it's pretty unlikely. Mike Brewer once said that "anywhere is a pressure point if you hit it hard enough"......I quite like that.

[Thai Bri]

I would prefer 4 or 5 very hard strikes to a sensitive spot.

But that's just me.

You feisty feisty girl!

[ScottUK]

One shot, everytime. The purist approach...

[Hardball]

i believe in the one shot one kill but i tend to flow several one shot one kill techniques until the guy goes down. besides, when i fight, i am usually pissed so only hitting him once would going easy on him lol

besides, some ppl can take more punishment. a bodybuilder can probably takea punchto the solar plexus more then a library nerd

Bareknuckles is totally different from even the smallest gloves.

[tranquil]

i believe in the one shot one kill but i tend to flow several one shot one kill techniques until the guy goes down. besides, when i fight, i am usually pissed so only hitting him once would going easy on him lol

besides, some ppl can take more punishment. a bodybuilder can probably takea punchto the solar plexus more then a library nerd

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

I voted for "other."

In C2 we train to hit with a repeated shot. Imagine something similar to right cross, right cross, right cross, right cross...... Now that's harldy a flow, as it isn't what many would regard as a combination. And it isn't a single shot.... rather a single shot time and time again.

Yes, it is best if the first one does the job. If it does? Then fine. But, if not? The next one is going in, as is the next.

If it is worth hitting once, it is worth hitting twice.

Musashi advocates the same thing in 5 Rings, always being ready to attack again along the same path.

[BoarSpear]

Didn't realize I was the only insomniac.

...Only?