Mas Oyama vs Helio Gracie(in their primes)

[Jiu-fu fighter]

ooooooohhh... I never thought about that...

so you think oyama challenged Helio gracie??

that is interesting

[Uke]

Considering it was anything goes, who would win?

Well 7r14ngL3Ch0k3, you know that my vote would have to go to Oyama. Keep in mind that Oyama welcomed all comers back when Helio and his family were supposedly doing the same. I don't think it was any coincidence that the Gracie family missed a match with Oyama. Especially after having felt the quality of Kimura's training.

Kimura, like Oyama, was a training fanatic.

[Tom Yum]

I mean Helio is pretty damn great......

but oyama, has killed a man with one punch, has killed around fifty full grown bulls with just his hands,

the training he did was unbelievable, he was pure muscle and callous

He would have mauled helio

Old school karateka were proficient judoka too, right?

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

What if Helio and Oyama had a kid with Bruce Lee?
What if that kid trained under Leo Gaje?
What if it was raised by wolves and ate nothing but gunpowder and raw meat everyday? What if all it had to drink was blood, Jameson whiskey, and the tears of wounded grisley bears?

Then it would be Vin Deisel.

sounds more like chuck norris to me

[Garland]

What if Helio and Oyama had a kid with Bruce Lee?
What if that kid trained under Leo Gaje?
What if it was raised by wolves and ate nothing but gunpowder and raw meat everyday? What if all it had to drink was blood, Jameson whiskey, and the tears of wounded grisley bears?

Then it would be Vin Deisel.

[Jiu-fu fighter]

I mean Helio is pretty damn great......

but oyama, has killed a man with one punch, has killed around fifty full grown bulls with just his hands,

the training he did was unbelievable, he was pure muscle and callous

He would have mauled helio

[Jiu-fu fighter]

http://www.fightingmaster.com/masters/oyama/

after reading this... well I would say oyama..

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

Considering it was anything goes, who would win?

I gotta say Oyama hands down. Keep in mind his judo was plenty good to keep the fight standing against Helio where his fists would wreak havoc.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Considering it was anything goes, who would win?