Whats the 'best' karate style?

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Originally posted by kempo_jujutsu
no style is superior to another in general....just gotta find what works for you.

there was no mentioning of superior, but best and that in between brackets, so best for ....... not absolute best

[kempo_jujutsu]

but to me the answer is still the same...no style is superior to any other.
what is the best sporting style....the one you do.
what is the best for self defense.....the one you do.
what is the best for self development.....the one you do.
as long as it is taught properly and with your individual goals in mind, they are all good.
i think of karate as this: the study of kata basically, kata is kata, they all have the same things contained in them, all the same "secrets"....etc. so who is to say that shotokans "tekki" kata is better than shorin ryu's naihanchi? tekki is but a different version of naihanchi....they are basically the same thing, with the same ideas. as with funakoshi's heian kata, in okinawa they are pinnan kata....same thing basically, just modified.
what is more important is having a good sensei.

[Thai Bri]

However - 99% of modern day Karate will get you killed in a street fight.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Glad I'did the remaining 1%

[Nit]

Speaking of which, if you are doing knife defense practise then buy a rubber knife, I found out at the start of this month that I was blocking too short and getting stabbed almost everytime (only started using the knife last month).

Been doing some grappling recently, applied it in a 'spirited' roll around where we tried to flow from pin to mount rather than just statically grab and hold a lying target. This time we went from standing to throw to pin to mount to counter to pin to mount etc... and being thrown into a pin is really painful if you don't learn how to break fall properly (my head and neck hurt)...

So moral of what I am trying to say is, when you learn something try to remember to keep it real, else if it does happen and you do use it, splat your dead.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

rubber knife as opposed to......?
we either used wooden aikuchi or metal tanto the rubber ones tend to break after a while

[darrianation]

In the military our plastic knifes kept walking off, so we would take butter knifes (metal of course) and wrap them with duck tape so it would hurt like hell if you got hit but it wouldn’t penetrate through the skin.

Yah I know it’s not the best, but you really knew it when you blew it. Plus we also trained in our bdu’s (battle dress uniforms) so it absorbed some the impact as well. Also it was cheap-didn’t cost much , so we saved the American tax payer some doe.

[Mookjong5]

shotokan karate!!! If you actually practice it and utilize it with the makiwara, you can make your body like iron. The katas are difficulta at first but you do catch on. With the kickboxing fad today in full effect, sometimes we forget Karate and are so easy to criticize it. I wouldn't want to be hit with some of the hands of the students that hit an actual makiwara. That would hurt





IF WAR IS HELL, TAKE A BETTER PITCHFORK THAN THE DEVIL

[Toudiyama[NL]]

I do not hit the Makiwara but you don't want to be hit by my fists either

Shotokan is half as good as Goju in making the body like iron
The Kata are lose from any sence of reality ( true for most japanes karate) and the bukai is reversed engineered and therefore also nonpractical

Shotokan is what gave Karate a bad name to start with, too deep stances from which one can't kick properly

So of all styles Shotokan wouldn't be in my top 10 ,Appart from the fact that there is no BEST Karate to begin with

[jubaji]

Originally posted by darrianation
In the military our plastic knifes kept walking off, so we would take butter knifes (metal of course) and wrap them with duck tape so it would hurt like hell if you got hit but it wouldn’t penetrate through the skin.

Yah I know it’s not the best, but you really knew it when you blew it. Plus we also trained in our bdu’s (battle dress uniforms) so it absorbed some the impact as well. Also it was cheap-didn’t cost much , so we saved the American tax payer some doe.

Saved money on English classes as well, I see.

[kempo_jujutsu]

i was rereading some of the posts and notice some talk about morio higaonna who is arguably the best proponent of goju ryu on the planet, i have never heard anything about his lineage being questioned, quite the contrary i have only heard that he is the "real deal" as far as goju is concerned. however i would like to learn more about this.
don draeger said once "morio higaonna is the toughest man in japan in a real fight"....just an intereting note.

[Thai Bri]

I did come across some internet argument about his lineage. It was in an article, and he was involved in the arguing himself.

Can't find it now, but have a search about and you may come across it.

[m.artist]

i think it is kenpo for 2 reasons
1. cuz im doing it now hehehehe
2. beczu all the traditional ones are too into forms and katas...where kenpo is more practical adn used for self-defense in ne situation..no matter how many adversaries

[jules]

Seidokaikan or Kyokushin

[sherwinc]

and.......

However - 99% of modern day Karate will get you killed in a street fight.

And whatever style the Karate are all the same, what i mean is - Karate are all the same whether it is GojoRyu, ShorinRyu, Shotokan etc, etc, etc, cause all Karate moves are all in Stop-by-Stop or Pause-by-Pause motion especially their Kata or SetPatterns.

Question:
How many punch did the karate execute in each of their kata? For example, i think in the first Kata they execute 10 or 11 LUNG PUNCHES. Are there any more techniques? Its boring.

How many same downward blocks in first kata? I think, there are 8 DOWNWARD BLOCKS.

2nd Kata and all of the kata of Karate are all Pause-by-Pause motion, its a broken rhythm.

and the worst is.........

the KATA of Karate and the POMSEE of Tae Kwon Do are all the same.

Tae Kwon do is the worst rather than Karate because..... because Tae Kwon Do's POMSEE is like KATA of karate - ITS A STOP BY STOP MOTION while.... while its Sparring fight is full of jumping/hop back and forth, side to side jumping.

Here's a stupid Question:
Why is it that there is no jumping/hop that you can see in all of the POMSEE FORMS of Tae Kwon Do? and.... why is it that there is no Stop-by-Stop motion that you can see when Tae Kwon Do fights if their POMSEE FORM is a stop-by-pause motion?

Now, back to Karate, All Karate style are all the same, and all Karate is only the basics of KungFu.

That is what i mean.....