Whats the 'best' karate style?

[sherwinc]

correction....

there was no mentioning of superior, but best and that in between brackets, so best for ....... not absolute best

To Human/people/fighter:
Under Heaven, we Mortal are all equal......

To Style/system/MartialArts:
Karate is better than Tae Kwon Do
Muay Thai is better than Karate (all styles of Karate)
KungFu (all categories) is better than Muay Thai

[sherwinc]

A Note for you......

I do not hit the Makiwara but you don't want to be hit by my fists either

Shotokan is half as good as Goju in making the body like iron
The Kata are lose from any sence of reality ( true for most japanes karate) and the bukai is reversed engineered and therefore also nonpractical

Shotokan is what gave Karate a bad name to start with, too deep stances from which one can't kick properly

So of all styles Shotokan wouldn't be in my top 10 ,Appart from the fact that there is no BEST Karate to begin with

Note:
The Last Kata of GojoRyu is the First Kata(setpatterns) of GoCho(NgoChoKun KungFu)

Note:
In KungFu, the lower the fighting stance - the better. (rooted from the ground, a fist is not a fist, the whole body is a fist. The fist does not move by themselves but, the whole body moves and coordinate to every single attack or defend).

[sherwinc]

additional quote.....

Glad I'did the remaining 1%

but the rest is in 99% karate not applicable and you are the 1% equals 100%. It simply means..... hehehe

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Karate is not ONLY bassic kung fu, it is chinese kung fu combined with the native onkinawan martial art called Ti

Forms should be done in combinations not in steps, 2-4 techniquess in a row but every technique is shown properly

the forms that are mentioned with 10 or more middle punches aren't the old forms anyway, and aren't even present in a lot of schools
in the old Kata, you don't do low block..........middle punch, the follow eachother strait away

[Spookey]

Bastardized TKD

Tae Kwon do is the worst rather than Karate because..... because Tae Kwon Do's POMSEE is like KATA of karate - ITS A STOP BY STOP MOTION while.... while its Sparring fight is full of jumping/hop back and forth, side to side jumping.

Here's a stupid Question:
Why is it that there is no jumping/hop that you can see in all of the POMSEE FORMS of Tae Kwon Do? and.... why is it that there is no Stop-by-Stop motion that you can see when Tae Kwon Do fights if their POMSEE FORM is a stop-by-pause motion?


...Sir,
The Ch'ang Hon Hyungs (original TKD patterns) are consistent with the teachings of the art .ie the hyungs (patterns) have jumping techniques, spinning techniques ect.
However, if what you stated is true then the poomse (WTF-Pal Gai & Tae Guek) make no since in accord with the general application of the techniques!
Hey, maybe this is why they are often seen as bastardized TKD!

TAEKWON!
(please note there are plenty of great masters in the WTF...many of whom were originally members of the Oh Do Kwan under Choi Hong Hi!)

PS: If karate is chinese based, then feel free to realize that kungFu is Indian!

[JKD-Escrima]

Kenpo I heard, was Japanese fencing.
any truth to that?

[jubaji]

Kenpo I heard, was Japanese fencing.
any truth to that?

lol
You're thinking of Kendo!

[brokenelbow]

The original TKD patterns were Shotokan kata.

[Spookey]

TKD PAtterns!

Dear Sir,
The first patterns practiced in TKD were Shotokan patterns. Yes, but they were not TKD patterns...as you said they were SHOTOKAN patterns!
The first patterns (hyungs) created by and for TKD were the Ch'ang Hon Hyungs of Gen. Choi Hong Hi!
Correct! if you feel otherwise please speak up.

TAEKWON!

[brokenelbow]

Not familiar with the name Ch'ang Hon, which patterns are in the set? Would Po em and Ko Dang be part of it? Are they different than the Chon Ji set?

[millie]

kara te

kara te = china hand

[Tom Yum]

kara te = china hand

kara te = empty hand, reread the kanji.

[brokenelbow]

The kanji can be read either as China or Empty. In Okinawan the ideogram was pronounced either Toudi or Kara both meaning China.

[Tom Yum]

The kanji can be read either as China or Empty. In Okinawan the ideogram was pronounced either Toudi or Kara both meaning China.

Really? Kara in Japanese usually means 'empty' as in Kara te or Kara oke...in Chinese the kara character is pronounced as kong and is usually associated with 'free of' something.

Toudi in Japanese means tang shan in Chinese (literally Tang dynasty mountain), which is no mystery why the Japanese refer to China as Tang - Japanese imported Tang dynasty culture.

[Spookey]

Ch'ang Hon Hyungs

Dear Sir,
The Ch'ang Hon Hyungs or Tuls consist of Chon-Ji thru Tong-Il (24 patterns) however, Kodang was replaced with Juche, so if your school chooses to keep KoDang and incorporate Juche there will be 25!
These hyungs are often refered to as the Chon-Ji forms because Chon-Ji (Heaven and Earth) is the first and symbolises the beginning...However, their proper name as a set is the Ch'ang Hon (Blue Cottage) forms. Ch'ang Hon was the pseudoname of Major General Choi Hong Hi! (you are familiar with him, yes) if you are not familiar with him then you might wish to inquire!

Spookey
TAEKWON!