JKD Nucleus

[Guest]

Here's just a word of advice for those who use the Inosanto letter of 1993 as some type of a endorsement to ridicule others. The letter when viewed in it's entirety really shows a most unpleasant and unattractive face for Dan and Paula. They demonstrate a type of arrogance, "we do not approve" of the magazine writing a feature with out the Inosanto approval" that we would rather not see. They claim that Bruce Lee's "other" students were really Dan's students. They, not Bruce, created JKDC.
Is it no wonder that the Bruce Lee estate took them to court...and they lost!

If I were Dan or Paula I would I would be embarrassed that anyone would read the letter.

There is talk about a class action suit being placed against the wealthy Inosanto Academy to seek damages to all those mentioned in the letter. They could end up in court again for the libel contained in the letter.

It took a little longer than I thought for your agenda to reveal itself, but after some careful positioning its now clear for all to see.

[Kvntu]

It took a little longer than I thought for your agenda to reveal itself, but after some careful positioning its now clear for all to see.

I would have to agree.

[Aikia]

Here's just a word of advice for those who use the Inosanto letter of 1993 as some type of a endorsement to ridicule others. The letter when viewed in it's entirety really shows a most unpleasant and unattractive face for Dan and Paula. They demonstrate a type of arrogance, "we do not approve" of the magazine writing a feature with out the Inosanto approval" that we would rather not see. They claim that Bruce Lee's "other" students were really Dan's students. They, not Bruce, created JKDC.
Is it no wonder that the Bruce Lee estate took them to court...and they lost!

If I were Dan or Paula I would I would be embarrassed that anyone would read the letter.

There is talk about a class action suit being placed against the wealthy Inosanto Academy to seek damages to all those mentioned in the letter. They could end up in court again for the libel contained in the letter.

It took a little longer than I thought for your agenda to reveal itself, but after some careful positioning its now clear for all to see.

Let's keep in mind I did not initiate the topic concerning the Inosanto letter.
Let's also point out MW noted the Inosanto court case, not me.
As the person who initiated that thread pointed out the Inosanto court case was not on his mind.
"Are you people f**king kidding me !!! (o_0) .... Just who and the heck is talking about Guru Dan here, you are putting in your dam words & conscious into your post?.... This has nothing to due with any of BLS.... This is just an example of how anyone and the gramma that think they are connected to BL BLOWS things out of their azz, without actual reading the dam post.... "

After I was drawn in to responding to WI Kali Group who introduced the letter into the thread it makes sense I would provide the other side of the story that so many conveniently edit out. How are you suppose to respond to an unknown person who calls you a fake by proxy?
The Inosanto letter used my name as well as several others in what constitutes libel. I was not the focus of the letter and I have proven that point.

Then there's SgtJim who joined the forum just to make a statement he "thinks" that I may have made at a martial arts seminar (I don't teach JKD) some 20 years ago? Can he prove it? He can't remember his own name.

I have no agenda. I was participating in the conversation. It is not common that you get a Black Belt Hall of Famer on one of these forums. I didn't initiate the topic.And, I have made no attempt to hide my identity.
As a published author I have written much about JKD. Go over every word I have written about JKD and you will find 99% objective and positive. I am a fan of Dan Inosanto. I am objective in my praise and criticism.

[Hammerhead]

Ok this website has this info on the subject.

Bruce Lee's grave


Bruce Lee certified three instructors: Dan Inosanto, Taky Kimura, and James Yimm Lee (no relation to Bruce Lee). James Yimm Lee, a close friend of Bruce Lee, died without certifying additional students. Taky Kimura, to date, has certified one person in Jun Fan Gung Fu: his son and heir Andy Kimura. All other instructors are certified under Dan Inosanto. Prior to his death, Lee told his then only two living instructors Inosanto and Kimura (James Yimm Lee had died in 1972.) to dismantle his schools. Both Taky Kimura and Dan Inosanto were allowed to teach small classes thereafter without using the name Jeet Kune Do.
As a result of a lawsuit between the estate of Bruce Lee (also known as Concord Moon) and the Inosanto Academy, the name "Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do" was legally trademarked, and the rights were given solely to the Lee estate. "The name is made up of two parts: 'Jun Fan' (Bruce’s given Chinese name) and 'Jeet Kune Do' (the Way of the Intercepting Fist). The development of Bruce Lee’s art from 1961 until the end of his life was one smooth and indivisible path. In the beginning, he referred to his teachings simply as Jun Fan Gung Fu. Later he further refined his art as a unique Gung fu all its own – Jeet Kune Do" (from the Bruce Lee Foundation Web site).
Some martial arts instructors, in an effort to promote themselves or their martial arts schools, make dubious claims about learning from or teaching Bruce Lee. There are only a few living people who can trace their lineage directly to Bruce Lee.


It is sorta backed up by the usage of Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do. And the fact that some schools still use JKD and Jun Fan.

As usual...the internet is wrong about just about everything!

You're quite outspoken, insulting, hot-headed & immature...not to mention wrong.

Taky Kimura has certified six people...read his book, "Regards From The Dragon."

[Hammerhead]

Do you hold a grudge against Bruce Lee?
I would hope JKD doesn't fall of the face of the planet, but at the same time if what you are saying is really true, than that shit is f***ed up, honestly no I don't think Bruce would have wanted any of this, Dan was his friend, and so were the others Ted Wong, etc....
Besides Dan was one of Bruce's best friends I would think he wouldn't want Bruce's art to fall of the face of the planet either... =/

Honestly I had always wanted to train with Bruce but since I was born before he had passed away, I could never fulfill that dream, and so I've always wanted to learn from those whom learnt directly from him, and to learn what they learnt in hopes to create my own way with such a great art, but if what you have said is true, it seems like my dream of training with all the first generation students and so on, is starting to fall apart faster than i can grasp hold of it....

I Heard many times about the beef going on with the whole JKD world but i figured they were nothing more than rumors considering Dan's daughter is apparently part of the Bruce Lee Foundation which is run by Shannon...
Its honestly kind of sad....

But just because Linda and Shannon are doing whatever, I hope no one will bash Bruce Lee himself.

NOW I know why this pencil neck has been giving me such a hard time!!!

I'm sure Guro Dan would be appalled to read the things Michael has written. There's been enough difficulties in the JKD family tree without this nut-case stirring up trouble!!!

[Clubber Lang]

You know buddy, its funny. A while ago this forum had some balls, and a cancerous little **** like you who is clearly here with a personal agenda against one of its respected members would have been sent packing. I think what has happened on here is that this forum has just become a freak show, where people are more interested in the entertainment someone like you provides as opposed to the input of respected martial artists.

So you know maybe you should stick around, but I reckon I'm out of here.

[Hammerhead]

Clubber-

I arrived here looking to correspond with others who like Bruce Lee & Jeet Kune Do, but found a caustic little ectomorph with a foul mouth & pathetic attitude. He started the name calling and rancor. I've responded thusfar without using foul language & I've tried to inject a bit of comical relief (though I must admit he's annoyed me @ times).

Since Googling his website...I'm now amused (especially considering he's coming off the tough guy). I'm not saying I think he's a bad martial artist (I think he's fair-to-middling based on what little I've seen). And I'm not saying I'm an outstanding martial artist. But I will say Mr. "prick" comment is 3-5 weight classes out of his league, and he's giving up a great deal of height & reach. And this wouldn't be my first rodeo.

Furthermore, I don't really have much of a beef with eXcessiveForce - except I think the handle is childish & he seems to respond to every query with, "use a weapon."

But once again...I feel the instructors Michael's named off wouldn't be happy to see what he's written.

Maybe I will stick around...Michael & eXcessiveFarce have certainly had their say with thousands of posts between them. Why not something new & refreshing for a change? Something a little more grown-up.

[Hammerhead]

I suppose we could all check out your facebook page to see how huge you are. But that might be a little disappointing don't you think

It wouldn't be disappointing for you eXcessiveFarce. I mean with a handle like that I doubt you're worried about anything.

"If you must use force, make it excessive."

What a joker!!! What a clown!!!

[Hammerhead]

yup i've seen you, you don't impress me.

I'm afraid I must now disappoint you eXcessiveFarce...I don't have a facebook account, I don't twitter, I'm not on MySpace.

I don't have the time - speaking of which...this place is a total waste of it.

[Tant01]

Yawn....


Wasn't that fun!


LOL


~Tant01


Glad to see one of us has a clue...


too Phunny...


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