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[Eyegouge]

Demi I wanted to say, besides having some ink i find questionable. Your stuff looks down to earth and decent to sell. Good luck with your buisness man.

Boar I so now think that you, somewhere in your house have those guns on spring mounts that shoot out of the sleeves of your jacket into your hands. TELL me you have those....I bet you do don't you? Man you are so crazy.

[blitz]

nah.... you're getting too analytical


How about this:

He's still just another punkass with no respect for other martial arts. He thinks he's soem kind of elite, rough "streetfighter" who apparently carries around a gun. <------- Perhaps that's why he can fight. No one stands a chance against the BULLETS !!!!

He claims traditional ma is ineffective. Let's throw him in the ring with a couple of Muay Thai legends ( a traditional MA) and see how he does.

If Bruce Lee were alive, Lee would've handed this Demi guy's ass to him.

Choi Bae Dal (Masutatsu Oyama) would've also wiped the floor with the "self preservation" man, as would have Grandmaster Jhoon Rhee (reknowned TKD gradnmaster and Bruce Lee's training buddy).

Oh wait... he has a gun.

Well those people would probably kick any ones ass these days.

[Demi Barbito]

"""No one stands a chance against the BULLETS"""

Guns are not magic. Guns do not solve all problems. They are operator dependent. I've seen elite professionals miss the target from only 4 feet away. Stress plays into everything, including guns.

Having a concealed weapons permit is not about being a bad guy. It's about protecting your self and your family. It is issued by the police. They don't give those things out to often in Ca, I'm very blessed to have one. Ther are a lot of sick people in the world who "like" violence.

My concern is self preservation. Not defending another mans honor. Not looking good. Show me a traditional martial art that uses pre fight techniques, striking, clinch, ground, weapons and firearms and you'll have a good TMA. Unfortunatly they do not offer that.

I didn't come on here and say anything about TMAs. I said something in a clip on my site. If you don't like it don't go to my site!


Mike Brewer,

I appreciate your backup.

But with the frenzied and extremly aggressive responses from tkd_person89 on this board and in private messages I would not try to convince him of anything. I would not want to know him, speak to him or train him. I stay clear of that type of person. He has revealed everything in his reactionary posts. He is obviously the type of person you turn away when they come to train. He may be a young person but that's not excuse. He could have come on here and said "reality based arts don't work" and I wouldn't of even posted a response. He can think whatever he wants. I'm not the world police of reality based arts.

"""I have seen no other IWB that fit all those qualifications did i miss something new?"""

Nah! This stuff has been around for a long time. IWB is my fav carry position and there are a number of great holsters, nylon and kydex, that allow for great access from any position.

Demi

[BoarSpear]

Nah! This stuff has been around for a long time. IWB is my fav carry position and there are a number of great holsters, nylon and kydex, that allow for great access from any position.

Demi

Its true there are alot of holsters out there...but that doesnt mean they are all good. I have tried MANY different IWB ones, most dont allow you to carry in shorts and no shirt, or to draw from behind the wheel of a car...glad you found something you like...good luck with it.

[fayd]

For what it's worth...

I normally don’t get involved in these discussions (too many people out there just trying to bait arguments and flair tempers), but here’s my two cents for what it’s worth.

Unless the individual student makes the decision to dedicate time to martial arts training, teaching martial arts to military personnel, police officers, etc. simply doesn’t work. People in this line of work typically don’t get much time allocated for defensive tactics training; many are lucky to get two weeks per year. These people need skills that work right now! …Not six months to a year from now. That being said, Demi is absolutely right, some of you just don’t like how he said it. Demi works in a fast growing and highly competitive arena, and marketing plays a large part of it. He’s not advertising to the martial arts crowd …he’s targeting a specific professional group.

His stuff looks just like…. Yes, it does. There’s no new way to hit, kick, or head butt another human being …there’s just new people with new ideas and their own way to present information. Enough said.

Carrying a firearm is not a state of being …it’s a result of living in this sick world of ours. Open up the newspaper and read the crime reports sometime …I have a family to protect, and criminals don’t play by the rules. As for concealed carry holster issues, it’s all about personal preference. IWB, pancake, shoulder rig, small of the back, ankle, thunderwear, or the old snub-nose in the jacket pocket …it comes down to practicality, training, environment, weather, comfort, and a whole host of other things.

“The ring” only proves that a fighter is good in that environment, so it’s a moot point.

Now, I don’t know and haven’t trained with Demi, nor do I agree with 100% of what he’s putting out, but he seems to be open to adult discussions and debate versus argument baiting with no real purpose. I don’t know what his background and credentials (which I believe are important both legally and ethically) are, but I have to respect him for not giving into the harsh, malicious, and uneducated posted criticism. If you want to be professional you have to act professional.

Train well…

[BoarSpear]

I normally don’t get involved in these discussions (too many people out there just trying to bait arguments and flair tempers), but here’s my two cents for what it’s worth.

Unless the individual student makes the decision to dedicate time to martial arts training, teaching martial arts to military personnel, police officers, etc. simply doesn’t work. People in this line of work typically don’t get much time allocated for defensive tactics training; many are lucky to get two weeks per year. These people need skills that work right now! …Not six months to a year from now. That being said, Demi is absolutely right, some of you just don’t like how he said it. Demi works in a fast growing and highly competitive arena, and marketing plays a large part of it. He’s not advertising to the martial arts crowd …he’s targeting a specific professional group.

His stuff looks just like…. Yes, it does. There’s no new way to hit, kick, or head butt another human being …there’s just new people with new ideas and their own way to present information. Enough said.

Carrying a firearm is not a state of being …it’s a result of living in this sick world of ours. Open up the newspaper and read the crime reports sometime …I have a family to protect, and criminals don’t play by the rules. As for concealed carry holster issues, it’s all about personal preference. IWB, pancake, shoulder rig, small of the back, ankle, thunderwear, or the old snub-nose in the jacket pocket …it comes down to practicality, training, environment, weather, comfort, and a whole host of other things.

“The ring” only proves that a fighter is good in that environment, so it’s a moot point.

Now, I don’t know and haven’t trained with Demi, nor do I agree with 100% of what he’s putting out, but he seems to be open to adult discussions and debate versus argument baiting with no real purpose. I don’t know what his background and credentials (which I believe are important both legally and ethically) are, but I have to respect him for not giving into the harsh, malicious, and uneducated posted criticism. If you want to be professional you have to act professional.

Train well…

In other words never say anything bad about another system or practicioner.

you are right its all marketing...so when someone chooses to put the TMA's and traditional JKD down in order to market himself, didnt he break your precious rule?

dont be suprised when you say traditional JKD sux then post it in a forum full of those people they reply in a less than impressed manner.

[gong fu]

i couldent hear him talk, the speakers were off, but from what i see in the actual training clip with action, i wasnt very impressed, he had some basic moves that could be of some use when dealing with a rookie knife wielder, but against a skilled assailant,


nah,,, he would be cut to pieces, look at his first clip he had the guys single arm held with both of his hands right?, so whats stoppign the other guys free hand pulling out a second blade and jamming it in his side?.


peace

[tkd_person89]

i never said his stuff doesn't work.

I do however have a HUGE (VERY, VERY HUGE) problem with him claiming that TMA is useless. That is what got me angry in the firs tplace

[fayd]

BoarSpear,

you are right its all marketing...so when someone chooses to put the TMA's and traditional JKD down in order to market himself, didnt he break your precious rule?
I don't have any "precious rules"

dont be suprised when you say traditional JKD sux then post it in a forum full of those people they reply in a less than impressed manner.
I am a "JKD Guy", and I've learned valuable lessons from every style that I've trained in. Some work for me, some don't.

tkd_person,

I do however have a HUGE (VERY, VERY HUGE) problem with him claiming that TMA is useless. That is what got me angry in the first place
I agree ...as I stated, I don't agree with 100% of what Demi puts out. I started out in Tae Kwon Do and I got a lot out of it. There is no "useless martial art". There are strengths and weaknesses to every style, and the practitioner has a lot to do with it.

[Demi Barbito]

"""These people need skills that work right now! …Not six months to a year from now. That being said, Demi is absolutely right, some of you just don’t like how he said it. Demi works in a fast growing and highly competitive arena, and marketing plays a large part of it. He’s not advertising to the martial arts crowd …he’s targeting a specific professional group."""


fayd,

Very well articulated.

Demi

[BoarSpear]

"""These people need skills that work right now! …Not six months to a year from now. That being said, Demi is absolutely right, some of you just don’t like how he said it. Demi works in a fast growing and highly competitive arena, and marketing plays a large part of it. He’s not advertising to the martial arts crowd …he’s targeting a specific professional group."""


fayd,

Very well articulated.

Demi

HMMM if he isnt targeting martial artists...his aims sux...this is a martial arts forum.

[BoarSpear]

BoarSpear,

you are right its all marketing...so when someone chooses to put the TMA's and traditional JKD down in order to market himself, didnt he break your precious rule?
I don't have any "precious rules"

dont be suprised when you say traditional JKD sux then post it in a forum full of those people they reply in a less than impressed manner.
I am a "JKD Guy", and I've learned valuable lessons from every style that I've trained in. Some work for me, some don't.

tkd_person,

I do however have a HUGE (VERY, VERY HUGE) problem with him claiming that TMA is useless. That is what got me angry in the first place
I agree ...as I stated, I don't agree with 100% of what Demi puts out. I started out in Tae Kwon Do and I got a lot out of it. There is no "useless martial art". There are strengths and weaknesses to every style, and the practitioner has a lot to do with it.

did you put down the other arts? or just move on? Demi slams others in order to promote himself...bad form

[Garland]

Mr. Barbito puts out material that sets a pretty good standard for what people should be training. My only problem with some of the things that he's posted on this forum is his lack of awknowledgement of the JKD family. I think it was, however, prudent on his part to point out something that everyone should be familiar with now, though...the in-fighting between various persons and organizations that spread out from the JKD lineages.

That being said...I like the overall concept, I think what he's doing is great, even though it's been done by others in the past with a similar background to his own...but that's the marvelous thing about the arts(/systems/whatever it's trendy to call them at this moment)...that you can shape them to fit your needs and for lack of a better term, martial/combat ideologies.

He seems to be a rather soft spoken individual, even though he does point out to some of you some rather upsetting and crushing revelations about the impracticality of the TMA's. (who'd have thunk it?!)

I, however, don't like some of the generalities he makes about people in the JKD group, because I happen to be instructed by somebody in the Inosanto line...who is also a muay thai instructor under Adjarn Chai, and a BJJ blackbelt under Prof. Pedro Sauer...and teaches the FMA also.
Although he doesn't teach tactical shooting (yet) as part of his curriculum, he seems to be capable of it in the future (he also works at a police supply store, and has done extensive training in the tactical use of firearms). In anyone's eyes, a comprehensive blend of ranges...except for it's lacking projectiles....not because of him, but because...I think...of his student base.

The only problem I can percieve with teaching tactical use of a firearm is it alienates people who could potentially come in...and he needs students. I remember a few times getting private lessons just because everyone else bailed. (small class, only 10 people tops at any given night.)

Because of his position, and his marketing, Mr. Barbito is able to teach the curriculum he wants without being FORCED to compromise it due to an uninformed public. I live in Utah, people have no aesthetic for anything...food, culture, theater, dance, music....martial arts are no different. Ask most people around here, and they couldn't tell you the difference between tai chi and muay thai.

I wish Mr. Barbito the best of luck, and urge him to continue learning as he teaches...because stuff's always changing with the times...and I love to see more people maintain that cutting edge. (unlike my goofy, butterball ass who makes excuses about not being able to train...fuckin' college! )

[Demi Barbito]

"""I, however, don't like some of the generalities he makes about people in the JKD group"""

Garland,

Thanks for that very well thought out post.

As far as JKD goes my only real problem is that some people have turned JKD into what is is "not". Either by freezing it into a relic of an art or by using someone misguided interpretation of it, including the standardized excuses.


"""somebody in the Inosanto line...who is also a muay thai instructor under Adjarn Chai, and a BJJ blackbelt under Prof. Pedro Sauer...and teaches the FMA also"""

That sounds like a great instructor.

Demi

[Patrick G.]

nah.... you're getting too analytical


How about this:

He's still just another punkass with no respect for other martial arts. He thinks he's soem kind of elite, rough "streetfighter" who apparently carries around a gun. <------- Perhaps that's why he can fight. No one stands a chance against the BULLETS !!!!

He claims traditional ma is ineffective. Let's throw him in the ring with a couple of Muay Thai legends ( a traditional MA) and see how he does.

If Bruce Lee were alive, Lee would've handed this Demi guy's ass to him.

Choi Bae Dal (Masutatsu Oyama) would've also wiped the floor with the "self preservation" man, as would have Grandmaster Jhoon Rhee (reknowned TKD gradnmaster and Bruce Lee's training buddy).

Oh wait... he has a gun.

dude..

c'mon now..i've had my disagreements w/ Demi before about certain issues, but it sounds to me like you are wayy in left field with your remarks!

fighting in the ring is totally different than fighting on the streets...this may sound like a cliche, but there are no rules on the streets...in the ring, you may never have to defend yourself against 4 thugs at one time while your baby girl is in your arms... in the streets, you may...and it doesn't matter if you are a Muay Thai master or not...

I train 6-7 days a week in Muay Thai, boxing, JKD, JuiJitsu, Savate, and Silat and am proficient with edged weapons, but I also carry a concealed firearm...does that mean I can't fight because I carry a gun? wanna see?

I think the real question to Demi should be, what does he consider as "traditional" martial arts? This may be where his fault lies, as a lot of the very techniques he is teaching stems from "traditional" martial arts (believe it or not Muay Thai, boxing, JuiJitsu are all "traditional" martial arts).