probation stopping me from learning jkd =[

[white devil]

sorry dude,I really dont mean to be rude..but chances are everyone is gonna stay away from this thread and I doubt that you'll get some more replies...just wanted to let you know before you ask yourself -----where did everyone go?

[Tant01]

i dont have a bad temper, but i am not the kind of person that will ignore it if you have offended me.

You do have a temper. You demonstrate it with your words.

I'm not angry with you and I don't really think being on probation or being rejected is funny. It's not, it's SERIOUS. I was trying to provoke you into thinking about your situation and your reaction showed us all that you're not ready to be punched in the head. I wouldn't even let you hold a kick pad! You have no self control (to speak of) and you strike out at the least little perceived attack. Don't take it personal. I really was trying to help you. You need to get serious with the self discipline if you expect others to teach you to FIGHT. Seems like you know enough already to get yourself into trouble.

If you were taught JKD NOW you would probably get into even more trouble or worse you might actually use it to HURT or maim your next victim.

You have no self control. THAT'S the problem, not being on probation.

[theprophet]

Why was it even brought up that you are on probation? I think training may be the best way for you to achieve some level of self control IMHO. You are obviously in need of some discipline....... I was a wild teen once, got arrested a few times, martial arts is probably the most important factor in me turning my life around into something positive.

[Paco]

I think trying to push somebody's buttons over the net is a cheap way of getting a rise out of him... You should meet the guy in person (and yes, perhaps find out WHY he was on probation in the first place) before jumping to conclusions. You know what kid? **** everybody, go train, become a martial artist, just don't become an asshole once you got skills...

P.S. If you know your heart is right (and you are not like some psycho-sadist-serial-killer) tell the JKD gym guy to kiss your ass, go find another school to train!

[Tant01]

Cheap Shot? I Think Not!

I think trying to push somebody's buttons over the net is a cheap way of getting a rise out of him... You should meet the guy in person (and yes, perhaps find out WHY he was on probation in the first place) before jumping to conclusions. You know what kid? **** everybody, go train, become a martial artist, just don't become an asshole once you got skills...

P.S. If you know your heart is right (and you are not like some psycho-sadist-serial-killer) tell the JKD gym guy to kiss your ass, go find another school to train!

MOTIVATIONAL THERAPY! GET OVER IT! I don't give a crap if he's on probation for shoplifting or grand theft auto. It doesn't make ANY DIFFERENCE if he was busted for possession of a controlled substance or child abuse. He might be a juvinile delinquent or a murderer.

I don't care! He wants to train in JKD and the instructor doesn't want to teach him. Who are we to second guess the instructor?

Let him pay his debt to society and get on with his life! Hopefully he'll be a better person and be able to STAY OUT of trouble in the future.

Or maybe he'll just be another REPEAT offender?

THE LAST THING I WANT is to help him HURT himself or others!

So bite me Paco...

[Paco]

Testbuggie, like I said **** everybody who is naysaying ya and do your thing...

[white devil]

dont push it too much tough..Tant

[Tant01]

Growing into a better person? Or not!

dont push it too much tough..Tant

Push WHAT?

If everybody else wants to feel sorry for him because he can't join the JKD Academy that's fine. He'll get no sympathy from me. If he wants to MAN UP and disclose his terms of probation and the crime he was convicted of I might change my tune?

I have no intent to take pitty on him. He's a criminal. I'm just keeping things in perspective.

If I got busted for... lets say assault DV (domestic violence) you think the Sifu should let me join the Jeet Kune Do club? So what if I'm only on "probation"... So what if I attended 4-8 weeks of anger control and did my hours of community service... So what if I paid my fines...You want to teach me JKD? Hell NO! I'd send me packing. Go join the karatedo dojo down the road LOSER! Maybe the BJJ club will take him? I've known guys like him all my life. Chances are he'll do the same thing again and again until someone actually sets him straight! THAT'S all I'm trying to do! I'm not disrespecting him, I'm not insulting him. I'm just another artist that thinks it's a GOOD IDEA to screen students. You have a problem with that? Get over it, it's nothing. Notta THING! Just my way of "helping" him out.

You guys need a reality check IMHO... What if he's on probation for some violent felony? Possession of illegal weapons? Drugs? Is that the guy you want to spar with? You want to teach him how to FIGHT? Go for it, I'm out!

[white devil]

you make some good points,although i'm very suprise at how seriously you take this..
but then again Ive realized that what we say in this forum influences people through their life and their training (might be directly or indirectly)...so yeah maybe you might be opening his eyes actually..but i think by being so judging and critical you could be worsening the scenario..

easy up on him..we don't know him nor what he has been convicted of( i know you were not here to accuse him of anything..neither was I)Just put in your mind that everybody deserves a second chance..and everybody deserves a shot at a better life (through martial arts)

I was just as frustrated as you when i heard his last vulgar reply not worthy of any martial artist...(that was when we shoudve stop answering and just started ignoring the thread)

[Tant01]

Chill, cooling it off.

i dont have a bad temper, but i am not the kind of person that will ignore it if you have offended me.

I apologize if I have offended anyone. Seriously...

That is not my intent. Just trying to make you THINK!


Stay safe folks.

[jubaji]

vulgar reply not worthy of any martial artist

I can't stand romanticized crap like that. Martial artists are not paragons of virtue, nor need they be. If they are, bonus, but take it easy.

[white devil]

can't stand romanticized crap like that. Martial artists are not paragons of virtue, nor need they be. If they are, bonus, but take it easy.

They are not ''paragons'' of virtue but,

where do the martial artist path lead if it's not to virtue?
The four classic virtues are

temperance
prudence
courage
justice(ok i spare you that one,unless your in law enforcement)

some others that relate to martial arts

Valour — Pursuit of Courage and Knowledge
Patience — Pursuit of Peace
Humility — Pursuit of Modesty

don't tell me youre not aiming at least at one?

[jubaji]

They are not ''paragons'' of virtue but,

where do the martial artist path lead if it's not to virtue?
The four classic virtues are

temperance
prudence
courage
justice(ok i spare you that one,unless your in law enforcement)

some others that relate to martial arts

Valour — Pursuit of Courage and Knowledge
Patience — Pursuit of Peace
Humility — Pursuit of Modesty

don't tell me youre not aiming at least at one?

Martial Arts are not a religion, kid. Don't overdo it.

[Daremo]

They are not ''paragons'' of virtue but,

where do the martial artist path lead if it's not to virtue?
The four classic virtues are

temperance
prudence
courage
justice(ok i spare you that one,unless your in law enforcement)

some others that relate to martial arts

Valour — Pursuit of Courage and Knowledge
Patience — Pursuit of Peace
Humility — Pursuit of Modesty

don't tell me youre not aiming at least at one?

Wasn't this a scene from Gladiator?

[Daremo]

Ive realized that what we say in this forum influences people through their life and their training (might be directly or indirectly)

With all respect to you, anyone who is influenced in their life by something said by a faceless name on the internet, has much larger issues to deal with. Asking advice, and allowing yourself to be influenced by some negative comments are totally different. People give advice, or speak their mind, and if you don't like what is said, you discard it, and move on. Replying with the imature post like he made proved he has serious issues to work out, before he begins his training. Everyone makes mistakes, and people deserve a second chance. It's how you handle the second chance... I was behind him until that.