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  • #16
    Brokenmace,

    I'm one of the people that can punch anything and not hurt his hand. I know that allot of people can't do this. So I guess its safe to assume the bones of the foot could be the same way. I'll agree with you on this point. However its not fair to lump all comunists together with the chinese goverment. Its a pretty isolated incident with china.

    Terry,

    Where do I find a copy of this unpublished Inosanto version?!?! Please tell me!!!

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    • #17
      Straightblaster, you would only find this in the Inosanto residence or in the bags that Sifu Dan carries around when teaching. He is a pretty reasonable guy, and I'm sure he would show you if you approached him in a nice way.

      Brokenmace, I am not a fan of communism or friendly towards the current regime in China. However, I just got back from a long trip to Shanghai, Hangzhou, Shenzen and Hong Kong and I can tell you that the label of 'communist' is somewhat more problematic than it used to be in the Chairman Mao days. Most people don't believe in the party ideology anymore and will tell you that flatly. A lot of people wish the old guys would die out. (I guess it doesn't matter what you say these days as long as you stay away from the media or making public demonstrations.) In any case, communist ideology has been replaced by enthusiastic capitalism in most of urban China. (Dunno about the rural areas cause I didn't go there.) And, as a result, there have been dramatic improvements in the standard of living of most Chinese people. A few observations:

      - It no longer looks like the police sleep in their uniforms.
      - It no longer smells like a sewage treatment plant is somewhere nearby.
      - The city of Shenzen, begun from scratch 18 years ago, now tops 5 million people. And it is all high tech stuff. This longtime Silicon Valley engineer was amazed at the manufacturing and R&D capacity they have built.
      - There is an amazing amount of new housing that has been built in the last 10 years on the outskirts of Shanghai and Hangzhou. The houses are bigger, and people keep these dwellings up. Whereas, in the old days they lived in squalid conditions and just didn't care about maintaining parks, side walks, green belts, etc. Only enough gardens to provide them food.
      - Many people still ride bicycles for transportation. But now they ride noticeably FASTER than 6 years ago. It is as if they really had something to look forward to and places to go.
      - Many of the people I work with in my company's Beijing office were students in Tian an Men square. They are NOT communists.

      Perhaps, most of what the communist party defends is its own hold onto power. In any case, I would caution anyone against tarring the Chinese people with the same brush as the corrupt authoritarian regime which claims to represent them. That's not what I saw...What I saw was a country full of people hurtling towards modern business and living standards at break neck speed--like a car full of people being driven with reckless abandon.

      Regards,

      Terry

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      • #18
        Everyone,

        Please don't misunderstand my positions. You have to read my words carefully. I forget that folks make (probably legit) assumptions about the rhetoric that spills from most folks' mouths. I'm a relatively precise writer (sometimes my speaking is a different matter though )

        I never would tar the Chinese people. After all, the world is mostly Chinese, so they must be doing something right. That wasn't a joke. Their civilization is the most successful on earth, bar none. I was talking about those hypocritical rats that rule them currently. The Chinese Communist Party is the largest most inane political orginization on the planet, numbering 35 million fools.

        Please understand that despite protests to the contrary, there is a massive difference between Communism and socialism. Democratic socialism, whatever it's faults, is not based on totalitarianism and enjoys free expression in Europe.

        Communism, on the other hand, contains the moral heritage of Marxist ideology, the idea that someone should be forced to produce a certain set of services for the "people" (read, government, oligarchy, tyrant, etc.), and that everyone's needs should be met (even though this can never be afforded and excludes spiritual and cultural needs as obsolete or an "opiate").

        Marx believed in bloody revolution, with government subsiquently in the hands of a despot. This was prescribed in his silly "Communist Manifesto". A child's fantasy, really.

        The primary problem with Communism is that men cannot be trusted to evolve from the rule of despots to rule through consent of the governed and still be Communists. It doesn't happen. Movement of this kind is only followed by either socialism or capitalism. Communists, all of them, vote with bullets. Modern democratic socialism has no such delusions, by definition.

        I love the people and culture of China. I've never been there, but I've met many Chinese citizens, as well as Japanese citizens. I love Japan as well. I liked both so much that I learned several hundred Chinese ideograms in high school. Japanese Kanji is largely the same. I still know many ideograms to this day.

        Later.
        Last edited by Brokenmace; 10-22-2002, 07:47 PM.

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        • #19
          Ive looked at tao of jkd and i can only read some of it most of it is in chinese.

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          • #20
            Terry are you some kind of sociologist.

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            • #21
              Even if I knew every Chinese ideogram (character) it would be very difficult for me to translate hand-written script. It is worse than Arabic sometimes, and Arabic has three alphabets!

              But much of it can be inferred from the pictures and what is in English. Large amounts of practical material are actually in English.

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              • #22
                To my understanding Bruce stated the hook kick in jkd could be compared to the boxers jab. not a power kick but an effective kick to keep the opponent at bay and enable follow up to penatrate the defence. The low kick utilizeing the hook can upset the balance ,sweep the leg , attack the syatic nerve creating a charlie horse affect to that leg slowing down the mobilty. Upseting the entering of the attacker, Or the lead of your own attack The jab allows one to keep at bay the oppent sat up the other tools upset the defence and feel out the oppents reaction this goes to the uses of the hook kick of jkd Other kicks were for more power hitting .

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                • #23
                  yo,

                  I think I'm gonna have to go with Straightblaster on the shin thing, mainly because I used my own shin at the end of my famous video and saw the beautiful effects of it.
                  The shin is pretty damn hard.
                  But the instep could cause more pain, since it has more leverage (being nearer to the end of the foot)
                  So I think it depends, I think.....I don't know...

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                  • #24
                    Capoeira, is more like a dance .. part of it is playing insanely wierd instruments made out of all sorts of wacky things while some guys "spar", it looks really cool and those guys do have alot of skill. But there is no contact .. so you are not conditioned to contact fighting. If you took Caporeira and another full contact Id imagine that could work well. But then again you dont really have practice at connecting with your Capoeira moves.

                    I dunno

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