jkd as first art?

[REYS77]

is it ok to train in jkd if you have never reall trained in the ma before. or should i take for instance tkd for awhile ?

[Hulk]

I have never done it before, but, yeah, I reckon you can... if your a goooooooooood listener.

[pseudoswitch]

I think studying other arts before JKD would be very benificial. You could do some basic boxing and some wing chun for trapping, maybe some kickboxing. Although of course it's not a must, i think it definately would be a good idea.

I don't think TKD would be a very good choice though, better off with Thai boxing if you want to work on your kicks. I say this because Thai is more commonly found in JKD interpretations as opposed to TKD.

[terry]

Originally posted by Hulk
I have never done it before, but, yeah, I reckon you can... if your a goooooooooood listener.

Bahahaha. That's hilarious. Regardless of the art, if you study, make sure you don't go to a school that does the martial arts equivalent of sitting on the edge of the bed and talking about how good it's gonna be.

Terry

[swan104]

I reckon it shouldn't be too difficult to start JKD without any prior knowledge of MAs. You'll have less "classical baggage" to get rid of!

[pseudoswitch]

Good point swan. But 'daily decrease' implies there must be something there in the first place

[akja]

They say its easier to teach JKD to someone with no experience because "they just do" and they don't have their other arts in their way.

[terry]

Can they relax their body when moving is the biggest impediment I've run into. Some guys who have been doing kata for too long have forgotten how to relax.

[Guest]

Does learning Kata help you fight?

[pseudoswitch]

At the risk of sounding redundant by attempting to answer what is probably a rhetorical question ( ) em, naa, it don't.

Practicing kata helps you to perform kata.

Practicing fighting (sparring) helps you to fight.

All IMHO of course, but i bet a few people agree with me. Just a few

[Nick]

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If you know what the movements in the kata represent, they help you remember different techniques, but kata doesn't help you with actual fighting.

Later...

[Sean J]

Some guys say there may be Jun Fan without JKD but there is no JKD without Jun Fan. From that viewpoint, doing JKD as your first MA your first MA would in fact be Jun Fan Gung Fu.

So that would more or less mean the 2/3 of the Wing Chun system that Bruce Lee found practical as your first art.

This also makes sense in terms of distances: One of them is the trapping distance - obviously one needs to learn a at least some part of a system that works with trapping techniques.

And especially for Brithai: I don't mean over-complicated fancy trapping that only works with a partner that freezes his actions. In fact I couldn't imagine how trapping should ever be able to work with somebody who stops his action. Trapping - and especially non-classical trapping works on the basis of loading up a certain amount of pressure and counterpressure.

[Guest]

Thanks for that.

PS - the Kata question was rhetorical......

[Sean J]

Talking about kata - or forms in general:

Bruce Lee said forms were useless - and did the Siu Nim Tao form up to 50 times a day I've heard ...

Funny ...

[Nick]

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Everybody has their own opinion.

Later...