Who did Bruce lee actually fight?

[Thai Bri]

And Bruce was assassinated by Ninjas too.

Yeah, right.

Durrrrr........

[ultraphine]

um

Look i hate to keep harping on this, but i have to clear up a point,

bruce supposedly beating chung, which i assume to be william cheung in 1959 just aint true, even bruce claimed that he wasnt the best fighter in the world until he could beat william, yes i know he used to be my sifu but bel;ieve me i hold no love for the man at all. And rooftop challenges didnt have rounds that is the point, also why would they have a challenge match on a rooftop with rounds when they both trained at the same kwoon, where a challenge would have taken the form of bei mo(chi sau) Its pretty common knowledge that william issued a hong kong wide challenge and beat all comers in the late 50's or early 60's plus bruce also credits him along with wong shen leung as being the two guys that yip man asked to teach him closed door.

I think the main thing to come out of this debate is that there really aint that much proof either way about bruces fighting history.

And yeah i think that is true that bruce was challenged alot on the set of enter the dragon, alot of people thought that he was an upstart for turning away from wing chun and believed that they could take him, i think they got the shock of their lives, as for the three taps thing that is the traditional way of issuing a challenge in hong kong

[jkd67]

I think Thai Bri is absolutely right about everything. I bet a 90 lb. woman could have taken Bruce Lee. But seriously, in a letter to his wife while making ETD Fred Weintraub made some interesting statements. I'm paraphrasing here, he says all the martial artists were trying to one up each other but he admits BL was the best of all of them. Then he mentions that an extra challenged Lee on the set that day and BL wiped the floor with him.

When Lee was in Hong Kong it was kind of like the old west. He was considered the fastest gun around and was CONSTANTLY being challenged just like gunfighters were back in the wild west. If I had to make a wild guess on the percentages I would say 90% he ignored & 10% he just couldn't avoid and dispatched them post haste. One time a guy went over the wall and challenged Lee in his OWN BACK YARD! Needless to say he REALLY took care of that guy!

[Thai Bri]

I think the term "wild guess" is more relevant to your post than you know.

[KATA]

discrace

The original question and thread are total nonsense, today, it was my first look across this the site. ....then......gosh.....
just ,,,,,, THANK YOU SO MUCH to 'The Great Sage', for your post on the topic (making my day).
You see beyond what most people do.
You are not 'fixed' in your way of thinking, but evolving as a martial artist.
A BORN WINNER -IMO

[Thai Bri]

Watch it Sage. Someones out for a jump.

[NWPTrainer]

Originally posted by jkd67
When Lee was in Hong Kong it was kind of like the old west. He was considered the fastest gun around and was CONSTANTLY being challenged just like gunfighters were back in the wild west.

This is one of the most culturally ignorant things I have seen posted on the internet in ages...that's sayin something too....Gunslingers as portrayed by Hollywood are just that...portrayed by Hollywood. "Gunfights" that did occur were far more akin to law enforcement engagements of today than to the showdown at high noon of Hollywood fame.
Most of the more notorious gunslingers were LEO of one type or another. The Earps, the Mastersons, etc. THe Gunfight at the OK Corral involved several LEOs attempting to detain known criminals because they were in violation of a municipal ordinance that proibited the possession of firearms in the city limits....pretty common law even back then...Whatever arguments arise pertaining to the bad blood between the Earps and the CLantons, the fact is, that is why they went to the corral that day.

The LEO today is far more likely to utilize his weapon in an anti-personnel role than any in the 1800s was. The gunfights that involve officers today are remarkably similar to those of 120 years ago, with the notable if obvious exception that today's bad guy has a far higher rate of fire and magazine capacity...

[c0bra]

Originally posted by NWPTrainer


This is one of the most culturally ignorant things I have seen posted on the internet in ages...that's sayin something too....Gunslingers as portrayed by Hollywood are just that...portrayed by Hollywood. "Gunfights" that did occur were far more akin to law enforcement engagements of today than to the showdown at high noon of Hollywood fame.
Most of the more notorious gunslingers were LEO of one type or another. The Earps, the Mastersons, etc. THe Gunfight at the OK Corral involved several LEOs attempting to detain known criminals because they were in violation of a municipal ordinance that proibited the possession of firearms in the city limits....pretty common law even back then...Whatever arguments arise pertaining to the bad blood between the Earps and the CLantons, the fact is, that is why they went to the corral that day.

The LEO today is far more likely to utilize his weapon in an anti-personnel role than any in the 1800s was. The gunfights that involve officers today are remarkably similar to those of 120 years ago, with the notable if obvious exception that today's bad guy has a far higher rate of fire and magazine capacity...

and people tell me to get a life

[WaTEr]

(Optional)

Whos is this great sage you speak of?

[jkd67]

I guess nobody wanted to raise issue with the Weintraub reference so they had to pick on the other comment. I meant to say if you were considered the FASTEST gun around you were subject to challenges, not just ANYBODY who wore a gun back then.

[Great Sage]

Re: (Optional)

Originally posted by WaTEr
Whos is this great sage you speak of?

Elvis has left the building... And so the sage follows.

[M@T]

A mate at work told me that he overheard 2 blokes talking and one of them had a sister who knew this bloke who saw on the internet that Bruce Lee could walk on water.

I swear its true !

[Cadden]

Lee had many challenge fights in his Hong Kong years when under Wong Shun Leungs tutelage in Yip Mans school. Lee, Shun Leung and Hawking Cheung were considered the best no rule fighters in Hong Kong, with none of them ever losing a Beimo (challenge) fight. So I don't doubt Lee beat many challengers in Hong Kong when the three went on rampage: exactly what there names were, who bloody knows. It'll be impossible to find out.

The only remaining member of the three is Hawking Cheung: Shun Leung died in 97. So I suppose we shall never know exactly how many challenge fights Lee had or there names. Who cares: he was a great martial artist and fighter, all those who knew him attest to that.

[WaTEr]

Actually contradictory to well known opinion, Bruce Lee was Buddhist. Deal with that!

[Benjamin Dover]

Actually contradictory to well known opinion, Bruce Lee was Buddhist. Deal with that!

Well actually....I bet he can kick your ass when he was a mere 17 years old, LOL!!!