Who did Bruce lee actually fight?

[MuayThaiFighter]

Lee's quickness was unquestionable.
I recall seeing a clip of the Longstreet episode, entitled"intercepting first" thee's this one scene where Bruce is wearing this red tracksuit and explaining the interception concept to a skeptic who wanted a demonstration. Bruce asks the guy to move towards him and I SWEAR all that you see is Bruce's leg in chamber. Bruce explains to the guy that when he moved towards him he intercepted his movement with the kick.... The first time i saw the ckip I said to myself BALONY! you didnt even TOUCH the guy. Well, I rewound the tape and played it in S-L-O-W motion. I noticed that Bruce chambered his leg, kicked it out and then retracted it. When you run it normal speed you dont even SEE the kick coming out! Now, I'm definitely NOT a "Bruce Lee Worshipper", but seeing THAT made a believer out of me.

There is no doubt that Bruce Lee was obsessed with speed and power but the fact is he also took steroids to get his power and speed.

His martial arts gave him great technique but it was the roids that made him fast and powerful despite what many may realize.However fast he really was,was still overly exaggerated.Bruce Lee was a legend,because of his philosophies and theories about martial arts and his movies but not because of his fighting ability despite what you may think.

It is physically and scientifically impossible for any human being of his size to be able to move as fast as he did without the help of steroids or some kind of drug.

Bruce Lee didn't ever fight in tournaments so it is impossible to say how good of a martial artist he was or could have been.Most likely he was pretty good since he fought alot on the streets of Hong Kong as a child,however as far as martial arts is concerned I doubt he was as good as he was made out to be.

[Sanitarium]

I think thats rubbish. Bodybuilders take steroids to pound on the mass and get huge, rippling muscles and big lifts. Bruce was what...about 9-10 stone, he was skinny. He trained for strength and speed, not size. If you can find a pic of him with trackmarks, bitch titties or acne, I'll believe that.

You say it's physically impossible, I don't believe that either, have you read about his diet or training regime? He had a small frame and was pure muscle, it makes sense that he was fast.

[shootodog]

I'm sorry, Sir Shootodog, but I'm mentioning it as a question: How true is it that Trubador Ramos beat Bruce Lee? That there exists a piece of film showing it? And it purportedly helped Bruce improve his own skill?

i cannot answer that straight off. you could look up TRACMA and ask them.

[MuayThaiFighter]

I think thats rubbish. Bodybuilders take steroids to pound on the mass and get huge, rippling muscles and big lifts. Bruce was what...about 9-10 stone, he was skinny. He trained for strength and speed, not size. If you can find a pic of him with trackmarks, bitch titties or acne, I'll believe that.

You say it's physically impossible, I don't believe that either, have you read about his diet or training regime? He had a small frame and was pure muscle, it makes sense that he was fast.

I think thats rubbish. Bodybuilders take steroids to pound on the mass and get huge, rippling muscles and big lifts. Bruce was what...about 9-10 stone, he was skinny. He trained for strength and speed, not size.

True that is why bodybuilder take roids,but Bruce wasn't a body builder although weightlifting was part of his exercise routine.

Many times body builders take steroids to get huge,rippling muscles and big lifts just as you said,but that doesn't mean that is all steroids can be used for, that's just the most common use for them.

Bruce Lee didn't take roids for that reason that is why he stayed skinny.He did light weights to stay slim and be fast at same time no doubt, but he did take roids to increase his speed though.

Yes I know about his diet and training regime, I have a book all about it.I have studied alot about Bruce Lee.

If you think it was impossible for Bruce Lee to have done steroids then you are crazy,it isn't as if he never did drugs.Bruce also did hasheesh which made him calm so why is it hard to believe he took steroids?

If you can find a pic of him with trackmarks, bitch titties or acne, I'll believe that.

Not everyone on steroids gets those bitch tits,acne and trackmarks,because like I said before not everyone takes it for getting huge.To get those marks and bitch tits from steroids you have to be lifting heavy weight and increase in muscle size fast which is the reason most steroid users do get them.

Ben Johnson who was the fastest runner in the world was banned from olympics when he was caught having taken steroids,which had made him faster and he wasn't a huge guy even though he was well toned which proves not everyone takes them for mass.Only the body builders take roids for mass and bodybuilding isn't the only sport in which steroids is used.

If steroids managed to make Ben Johnson fast who is to say it wasn't why Bruce managed to increase his speed ?

[Sanitarium]

Bruce's speed seems to match his training regime. I don't beleive he was on steroids because then I think he'd be even faster. True, not all steroid users get side effects but I think it's more than a coincidence in this case.

He smoked weed but cmon who doesn't. It's hardly a drug. Bruce had a lot of respect and pride in his body and I don't believe that he'd even bother risking taking steroids.

Besides, he wasn't THAT fast. I'm sure there are people alive just as fast as him.

[MuayThaiFighter]

Bruce's speed seems to match his training regime. I don't beleive he was on steroids because then I think he'd be even faster. True, not all steroid users get side effects but I think it's more than a coincidence in this case.

He smoked weed but cmon who doesn't. It's hardly a drug. Bruce had a lot of respect and pride in his body and I don't believe that he'd even bother risking taking steroids.

Besides, he wasn't THAT fast. I'm sure there are people alive just as fast as him.

He smoked weed but cmon who doesn't. It's hardly a drug.

I never smoke weed and I never. It is hardly a drug!!!!!!!!!!!! of course it is a drug,it's not as bad as doing crack,heroin,speed etc. but it is still a drug.
In fact marijuana was originally used on cancer patients before it became an illegal drug.

Bruce had a lot of respect and pride in his body and I don't believe that he'd even bother risking taking steroids.

Gee that makes alot of sense.Why would anyone who has alot of respect and pride in their body do marijuana? Marijuana does fry brain cells and like cigarrettes can cause cancer,so I don't call that respecting or having pride in your body. Cigarrettes however I know are worse then marijuana since they are addictive.

It wasn't about Bruce respecting his body,to him it was being obsessed with speed and power.

[Sanitarium]

Well yes it does make sense, do you think they knew much about the long term side effects of cannabis in the 60s/70s? There's a difference between a joint, and injecting yourself with chemicals.

Do you really think someone who trained as hard as Bruce and was like 1% body fat needed steroids to be so fast? He wasn't THAT fast ffs.

[MuayThaiFighter]

Well yes it does make sense, do you think they knew much about the long term side effects of cannabis in the 60s/70s? There's a difference between a joint, and injecting yourself with chemicals.

Do you really think someone who trained as hard as Bruce and was like 1% body fat needed steroids to be so fast? He wasn't THAT fast ffs.

No I don't think they knew the long term side effects of cannabis back then.What does that have to do with anything?

You're right there is a difference between a joint and injecting yourself with chemicals,one uses a needle the other doesn't but either way they are both drugs.

Now you're exaggerating.No one can be 1% body fat,you would die before that could happen.

Being slim doesn't make you necessarily fast but it helps. There is no doubt in my mind that Bruce was fast even without steroids but he was even faster with the steroids. There is no way that any film with Bruce would have to be slowed down because of quick kicks unless he was on roids which helped him to be faster then your normal martial artist.

Face it our martial arts hero was a druggy.LOL

Don't get me wrong I like Bruce Lee movies.

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I don't think that qouting 1% body fat was an actual figure so much as a figure of speach.It was low but i think we all know it was not that low!

[m.artist]

the highest percenteage of fat that bruce lee had on his body was less then 3%

[Sanitarium]

Basically it boils down to this. Why do you think he was on steroids?

Because he was fast and strong? Then go and look at his training regime and diet.

I couldn't care less if he took 'roids or not, I'm not against them myself, I wouldn't think any less of him if he did take them, but I just don't believe he did because he didn't need them.

[MuayThaiFighter]

the highest percenteage of fat that bruce lee had on his body was less then 3%

No one can live with less then 3% body fat so that is impossible. I'm 180 lbs with 14% body fat.The average is about 17% body fat so to have as low as 3% would kill you that is why many anorexics don't live long.

I'm sure Bruce Lee didn't have much body fat at all on him but it definitely wasn't less then 3%.He probably had at least 10-12% body fat.

[MuayThaiFighter]

Basically it boils down to this. Why do you think he was on steroids?

Because he was fast and strong? Then go and look at his training regime and diet.

I couldn't care less if he took 'roids or not, I'm not against them myself, I wouldn't think any less of him if he did take them, but I just don't believe he did because he didn't need them.

Why do you think he was on steroids?

Because I have studied about Bruce and read that in some book.

I have seen his training regime and diet but this doesn't prove he didn't take steroids.He wasn't the first one to ever go on diets and do the training he did you know.

I'm not against steroids either,everyone to their own.I myself have never taken them but I'm neither for them or against them.

What makes you so sure Bruce Lee didn't need steroids to get where he did?

[sherwinc]

When he became a super star, Bruce Lee didn't actually fight anymore... rather he trained and sparred with people. Here's what I've read and heard in the past.

According Dan Inosanto, Robert Bustillo and a friend of mine who knew Chuck Norris, Bruce and Chuck sparred one evening during the making of "Way of the Dragon." Bruce Lee was so fast that Chuck Norris could not even hit him. Chuck was slapped pretty hard many times, since Bruce didn't want to actually punch him.

Bruce Lee fought a guy on the set of "Enter the Dragon," as told by Bob Wall. Bruce was playing around until the guy got him angry... It was all over after that.

Samo Hung and Bruce Lee sparred during the making of "Game of Death," as told in the biography of Jackie Chan. It was a real kung-fu fight in which Bruce's speed was unmatched.

Bob Wall and Bruce Lee sparred on the set of "Enter the Dragon." Wall recalls just how phenomenal Lee was stating, "he could have been a lightweight champion kickboxer, or boxer."

so this is true? i never heard of this but i think its true cause you have a formal piece of a good evidence. I'm convinced.

[sherwinc]

i cannot answer that straight off. you could look up TRACMA and ask them.

talking about TRACMA? I am very familiar with these kind of martial arts cause that Trovador Ramos Consolidated Martial Arts (TRACMA) is easily beaten by a Green Belt Tae Kwon Do here in the Philippines......

one of my favourite scene while i watching their match is.... the TRACMA attacks his Green Belt Tae Kwon Do opponent with a Double straight punch but the Green Belt Tae Kwon Do defend it using a kicking attack called Back Spinning Kick to the TRACMA's head and it did hit.......