First Hapkido class yesterday, thoughts...

[Harry]

So your point is this - if you are no good at Judo then it will be no good in self defence.

Bit of an obvious point, isnt it? Thats probably true of carrying a shot gun - if you are no good with that it won't help neither!

Well, it seems like an obvious point, but still alot of people assume that because they have <insert colour here> belt, that they are good, any system you want to use for self defense needs you to be really good at it.

[jubaji]

Hope that made my point clearer.

After all that spinning it seems clear that you had no point of any significance to begin with.

[jubaji]

any system you want to use for self defense needs you to be really good at it.

How insightful! This is groundbreaking stuff!

[Harry]

How insightful! This is groundbreaking stuff!

If it's so blatently obvious, why is it that we have (in the western world at least) so many people walking out of martial arts classes, and being completely laquacious about how they can defend themselves?
I'm talking about the kind of people who weigh 100lb's and are skinny with little muscle and think that because they were shown a choke counter, that means it will work in the street.
Anyone with half a working brain could work out that for most arts to be effective you need to have more than the technique.

However, as I stated before, many people assume that because they do an art, they can defend themselves, without taking into consideration that their blows need speed, precision and strength to be effective.

[EmptyneSs]

the thing about judo is that its really a sport.it focuses on competition. it doesnt really focus on fighting in the street. for this reason the usefulness of judo in real life situations isnt really apparent at first. also, because it is a sport and not really for combat, it will take alot of practice and skill for one to be able to use it in self defense. however once u become a skilled judoka, u will easily be able to toss people around and u will have awesome balance on ur feet.once u are good enough it becomes just like a reflex like punching and kicking is in other arts, u will be able to do it without thinking.

[ChunGi]

I'm sure most will agree that that skinny man should not be fighting toddlers (30lb?! WTF).

Hey man, A 1 pound rabbit could take you down with a swift bite to the left/right testical.

And like someone above said, that technique isnt remembered when u get hit by a chair, that is true, at least partailly.

I have a ton of fight expierence becasue I did well in tournaments, which made some people think they should test me outside of a ring to, like in the parking lot directly outside the building with a ring in it. I like to train a real fighting style, the way you can do it in the UFC, for intance I train with a guy who is going in the UFC, I teach him things like arc hand (c-shaped) strikes to the throat, with can easily stop your breathing for a few seconds. Or targeting the siatic nerve in the inner leg, which makes in nearly impossible to kick let alone walk around. These type of thing apply in a tournament when your half assing your technique around just to get some kinda contact and a piont, Or in real life when your ending a fight in one shot with a quick kick to the neck.

Here are my favorite pionters.
-Hitting the throat undernietrh teh neck side of neck, bascially any place on the neck is the most effective in ending fights/lives. But be carefull you can paralyze a person really easily if you kick in the rigth spot with power, becasue there vertabrae dislocate and act like scissors on the spinal cord.
-shin kick the femur on the back leg rather then front for inclose combat, remember the back leg moves after the front leg, there is always a wiegh transfer and if ur hitting the bakc leg, fallowing through when your opponent has his leg in the air moving away, the fight is over or damn close.
-Always fallow through. moving your arm alone adds about 30-40 pounds of force to your punches, when the mass of yoru body, arm, speed/acceleration are combined you can create enough force to breake your own hand on contact (know that one form expierence). A good example of thsi is when your throw a board up in the air and brake it, if you punch as hard as you can at first, you will never brake the board, but usually if u just punch as fast as you can it will brake, when you combine the 2 you can brake it almost every time
- Joints are the weakest pionts on the human body, striking the non-planted side of a joint will casue very much pain, and in my case month sof physio and possible surgery. example: locking the upper arm while hyper extending the lower part. Kicking the upper leg, hitting in the lumbar spin region of a kneeling or sitting person.

Works every time.

Ps: I am definatly open to hearing what you find works and trying it out myself.

[EmptyneSs]

theres this spot right under the base of ur skull. a shot to this place can be absolutely devastating. if u want to know how devastating, take ur fist and very gently bump it into this spot. it jars ur skull so easilly. a hit to this spot will jar ur skull more so than a direct hit to ur head. if u have trouble finding it, start at the base of ur neck near ur back and gently start bumping urself while moving up. once u get to the base of the skull u will feel a different kind of sensation, like ur brain is being bumped. if a little bump like this can cause ur skull to feel that way, god knows waht a real strike will do. if the strike is hard its usually fatal or crippling since it breaks the vertebre right below u skull, and if it doesnt break it will no doubt cause sever injury. howver, it is in the back of the person, so its not easy to reach, but if u get a chance god knows the dmg it will do.

[jubaji]

Hey man, A 1 pound rabbit could take you down with a swift bite to the left/right testical.

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Now we know your fighting secrets.

[jubaji]

theres this spot right under the base of ur skull. a shot to this place can be absolutely devastating. if u want to know how devastating, take ur fist and very gently bump it into this spot. it jars ur skull so easilly. a hit to this spot will jar ur skull more so than a direct hit to ur head. if u have trouble finding it, start at the base of ur neck near ur back and gently start bumping urself while moving up. once u get to the base of the skull u will feel a different kind of sensation, like ur brain is being bumped. if a little bump like this can cause ur skull to feel that way, god knows waht a real strike will do. if the strike is hard its usually fatal or crippling since it breaks the vertebre right below u skull, and if it doesnt break it will no doubt cause sever injury. howver, it is in the back of the person, so its not easy to reach, but if u get a chance god knows the dmg it will do.

Oh, kids. Good luck.

[HKD_kid]

hapkido and kicking ?

any style of hapkido that teaches forms or lots of kicking is some kind of taekwondo/hapkido crap, traditional hapkido has only a few kicks and strikes

[medic06]

any style of hapkido that teaches forms or lots of kicking is some kind of taekwondo/hapkido crap, traditional hapkido has only a few kicks and strikes

that's kind of the norm now. Not really Hapkido, more like Taekwondo with locks.

[Ollis]

any style of hapkido that teaches forms or lots of kicking is some kind of taekwondo/hapkido crap, traditional hapkido has only a few kicks and strikes

Err, not sure where you picked up that bit of info from, but Hapkido actualy has more kicks than teakwondo, if you include all the variations. Choi Yong Sul admitedly introduced the art as little more than than Daito-Ryu Aikijujutsu, but as it was being developed, the whole Korean arsenal of kicking techniques were embrassed. Add to that the variety of different ways these kicks could be employed (a mid section side kick can be devastating if aimed at the base of the shin while dropping your body weight, etc, etc). If you refer to traditional hapkido as what Choi taught after returning from Japan, you might have a point, but hapkido has always been an evolving art and is open to development. Why do you think there are no forms in it?

[jubaji]

So, when does the guy get kicked off the horse?

[medic06]

So, when does the guy get kicked off the horse?

Only in a Shaw Bros. movie. . .

[jubaji]

Only in a Shaw Bros. movie. . .

I have to know! I'm gonna go find out.