I love TKD but...

[Studiobuddy]

Hey Buddy ,

You referenced holding the rank of 1st kup...is it possible that you will soon begin incorporating joint destruction, releases, and takedowns in you Ho Sin Sul training...could this be the "learning Aikido and Judo" you spoke of in your previous post.

If so, this makes perfectly good since. It did however sound as if you were going to learn complete new systems...and before completeing your basic education in TKD. At least that is how I understood the previous post.

P.S. I would have thought GM Van Bien would use the red belt as opposed to brown??? Doesn't realy matter!

TAEKWON!
Spookey

Deer good sir:

I'm not sure what your implying, but I began aikido and judo training later on after I get my black belt. They do something called unified martial arts at my dojang. I probably won't start aikido or judo in about 6 months. Hope this helps. What do you mean about the red and brown belt? Have a good day, I dont wan't a negativety between you and me Spookey.

[eXcessiveForce]

Let me help, correct me if i'm wrong though,

It is not usually helpful to start teaching other systems of martial arts to students who are not proficient in their first art.

Master one and move on. A white belt in 12 arts is useless, but higher levels in 2 or 3 arts can be very effective.

A TKD school teaching aikido is not a good match unless they are separate programs. The fundamentals are different and it is a very slow system to learn. Boxing is a good addition to TKD, it is quick to learn although mastery may take some time, it also has similar fundamentals of body movement and timing. Judo is another system that takes a long time to learn. While cross training can be done training in several systems outside the instructors specialty can result in poor results.

Most TKD instructors do not teach Aikido, or Judo. TKD is korean for one, Judo and Aikido are Japanese. (some historical aspects may say TKD is japanese as well) So unless they are trained in these areas they may simply be passing on a little of what they learned which can be quite poor compared to those schools that are teaching Aikido or Judo by themselves.

so it can be somewhat suspicious when a school starts teaching mulitple arts since many diciplines can take several years to develop and a very long time to master. However other schools may have different instructors for the different arts.
I teach TKD, We have an instructor that teaches BJJ, We have another who teach JKD. I train in all three but will defer to those who have trained longer in each system on matters of technique and teaching.

[Studiobuddy]

He teaches judo and aikido seperatley

I will be doing TKD , Judo , and Aikido all on seperate days

Classes are seperate for all different arts

My teachers hold like 5th dan in judo and 4th dan in aikido while the GM holds a little higher in degrees I believe.

[Thai Bri]

My rank is brown belt, but that will be black in 3 months.


I'm not a thirty year old white belt, i'm a 15 year old brown belt.

Thank you

Now this says it all. HAW HAW HAW!

[Studiobuddy]

Now this says it all. HAW HAW HAW!

What do you mean?

[ipscshooter]

For whoever asked... Here's the website to GM Van Binh's school:

http://www.vanbinhacademy.com/

[Spookey]

Buddy,

Young Sir,

I wish no hostility between us, and wish to apologize if you percieved me this way!

The comment regarding the color of your belt was very simple and miniscule in regards to impotance. Simply, the International Taekwon-Do Federation changed their belt system a few times...white, blue, brown, black...then white, blue, red, black...now white, yellow, green, blue, red, black.

Many dojangs within the Chang Hon Family (seperate from the ITF) still use the brown belt and many still use only the original 20 hyungs...this is well respected by me...I respect all true members of the Family. Just havent seen any card carrying members of the ITF wearing brown belts in quite some while.

Also, "excessive force" was some what right...it can be hard to carry that kind of load...all three arts that is.

However, Judo to me is very complimentary to TKD (I am also a practitioner of Kodokan Judo)...and it is quite common for Korean instructors and their first generation instructors as well, to be proficient in Judo. Judo is very proficient in Korea do to the occupation.

Finally, before you all rush on and tell me about yudo being practiced in Korea not judo...do some research first. They are both readily available in Korea yet taught seperately and overseen by different organizations.

Best regards Buddy!
Spookey
Taekwon!!!

[ipscshooter]

My TKD lesson this evening involved four or five Aikido wrist manipulation techniques that are very complementary to our TKD curriculum, using arm grabs, pulls and twists instead of the usual block/counter-punch. I can see how the footwork and timing require a lot of practice to perfect.

[Thai Bri]

What do you mean?

I'll spell it out.

You WILL be black in 3 months? No doubt is there? You've paid your money after all. A real art would have brown belts who were not so sure they would pass.

You are fifteen? Fifteen and a black belt? More evidence that the art is bollox.

And, best of all, this is oyur thread asking about punching.... at oyur supposed level you seem to know jack shit.

Sad.

[eXcessiveForce]

Ease up on the Kid Bri,

We all start somewhere and many will grow several times in our lives.

If you kill the spirit though, they may never grow beyond what they are right now.

What if someone had told your children when they were 12 or so that they would never amount to anything and might as well just go kill themselves now and save their parents the embarrasment of them being loosers. And they listened!

[Studiobuddy]

I'll spell it out.

You WILL be black in 3 months? No doubt is there? You've paid your money after all. A real art would have brown belts who were not so sure they would pass.

You are fifteen? Fifteen and a black belt? More evidence that the art is bollox.

And, best of all, this is oyur thread asking about punching.... at oyur supposed level you seem to know jack shit.

Sad.

Just because I asked on left hand punching doesn't mean I suck. There's nothing wrong with asking questions to improve technique. I've been doing TKD since I was about 5 or so. I never got too serious till I was about 9, and took a break between 2000-2004. I work out everyday, I hit the bags, run a mile, jump rope, stretch, etc..... I love MA to death and your comment was a little negative toward's me. What did I do to you?

[Studiobuddy]

I'll spell it out.

You WILL be black in 3 months? No doubt is there? You've paid your money after all. A real art would have brown belts who were not so sure they would pass.


Sad.

I know because i'm confident. I live for this stuff....and jazz guitar

[Thai Bri]

Ok ok..... maybe I'm being a little harsh on the lad.

Thai Bri with a conscience - what next?

[osopardo]

and anudder t'ing...

Almost all the tests I ever took were because my instructor felt I was ready, not because they fit some pre-arranged schedule. Passing the test was a foregone conclusion because I'd been "tested" every day of training as I went along, and the actual test was little more than a formality, a ceremony, a show put on to inspire others at lower levels. Not to say the tests weren't challenging (they most certainly were), but a good instructor at a good school prepares you to test then tests you only when he feels confident of your success.



Man! I remember my yellow belt test; totally flubbed the forms. I'd practiced this stuff so much I could actually do it forwards, backwards, from the middle, while talking to someone about some unrelated subject, I mean I had this stuff down cold. On the evening of the test, I'm standing at ready stance all alone in the middle of the training hall. Every eye was on me. The instructor calls out the name of the form and barks out "Begin!" and I totally blanked out. I stood there immobile, flop sweat starting to form on my forehead. I could no more remember the first move than I could fly. I knew if I could just the remember that first move thew rest would be easy. The instructor, seing my dilemma, walks up to me and asks me; "How's your dad?"

"Sir?"

"Your dad, how's he doing?"

"Fine, sir."

"And your mom, how is she?"

"She's fine, sir."

"Good, good. How're things at work?"

"Work is fine..."

"Good, good. Everything's going well with you? No problems?"

"No sir."

"Good. So, you think you can do this poomse?"

"Yes, sir."

"Uh, huh. o.k. let's see it then."

So he walked back to where he was standing before and I stood there at ready stance, thinking about how could I possibly forget something I knew that I knew so well? and the sweat was forming on my forehead as every eye was on me and the harder I tried to remember the more difficult it became and I thought about what I knew of Zen, how you're not supposed to try 'cause the harder you try the more difficult it gets and the room was deadly quiet, like you could hear a hum in your ears and then somebody cougheed and it sounded too loud and some kid giggled and I tried to relax as I stood there alone at ready stance in the center of the floor nmncmyei6 wiEDFHHJNMMJJJJJJJJ[[[[[[[[[/////////\\'''''

[eXcessiveForce]

but in your case it's good advice H2H