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  • #16
    Originally posted by Praetorian View Post
    I have always wanted to know if any karate stlyes have the same kicks as TKD.

    And if they do, do they kick the same with the same technique.

    This guy i knew told me that there side kicks are less powerful.
    Is that true???
    1944 to 1965: Karate and Taekwondo (Kwans) were basically the same.

    1966 to Present: Taekwondo developed beyond Karate. The kicks today are very different.

    Taekwondo was not developed from "Korean foot fighting" There was no direct Taekkyon influence on Taekwondo. The Korea Taekkyon Association dismisses the claim made by Choi Hong Hi that he learned Taekkyon from a North Korean named Han Ill Dong.

    #1. Taekkyon painstakingly documented it's lineage
    #2. Taekkyon was only around Seoul, not North Korea
    #3. the mysterious Han Ill Dong was a caligrapher, far from the world of
    roughians that did Taekkyon.
    #4. Practice Taekkyon and you will see that Taekkyon is radically different, and opposed to Taekwondo. No relation.

    Taekwondo is completely rooted from the following:

    Shotokan
    ShudoKan
    Shito-Ryu
    Chinese (Manchurian) martial arts

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    • #17
      That last post was great. A good look at the history and development of modern Taekwondo, thanks.

      But to answer the original question, the kicks are a bit different. You can see it in the hip rotation, foot pivot and foot movement. The various forms of Karate out there tend to "push" a bit more than TKD or TSD - I think this is due to the sport style of sparring that has become so popular in TKD, because you can still see a bit of the push style kicks in TSD.

      Now within TKD you can see different power levels in kicks. ITF Taekwon-Do is more traditional and you can see that in the popular side kicks, though they do practice round kicks they are not as deadly as you can find in the WTF. The WTF style of Tae Kwon Do may not have the "tradition" on their side, but they have developed a type of sparring that just screams "quickness" (as you can see in the Olympics) and the choice for quick kicks would be snapping kicks like the round or ax kicks...though you will see a good competitor though in a front kick or a front push kick to set up another technique.

      Karate and the Korean arts have similar backgrounds but over the last 50 or so years a bunch has changed.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by PlasmaShock
        Karate was developed before tkd so I belive that karate(okinawan and japanese and not that american-made crap) would have more time to refine the techniques.

        That is like saying the Chinese have the best rockets because the invented them. We all know who out the first object and man in space - Russia, and the first man on the moon. USA.

        Or for that matter since the Chinese systems were developed before the Okinawan and Japanese systems that they are "Better" because they have had more time to refine them.

        Repeating the same experience for 100 years does not equal 100 years of experience.

        Virtualy every physical activity ahs become beter in modern times for any number of reasons.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by electrorok View Post
          hey man i would think they would have the same basic kicks as tkd but probably wouldnt practice all of tkds kick.but i wouldnt doubt the power in there kicks. It all depends on the practitioner.
          merci beaucoup

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          • #20
            There are only so many ways you can use your leg to hit a guy, right? So in that sense the kicks are similar in their approach - with differences unrecognizable to most laymen. To skilled practitioners of the martial arts (either Taekwondo or Karate) there is a world of difference.

            As some have mentioned, that difference varies depending on the style of Karate or Taekwondo that you are practicing, and has less to do with the two martial arts as a whole.

            I actually have a whole page on my website that talks about the difference between Taekwondo and Karate. You can find it here: D. Vigil?s Taekwondo and Karate school, Northville, Novi, Plymouth Michigan

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