Why is TKD retarded?

[zhorner]

Hey Zhorner,

From my own personal experience with powerlifting, if you can max bench around 350 (lean body mass less than 200 lbs) then you are a natural athelete, 450 (lean body mass~220lbs) and 550 (lean body mass over 220) also natural. This coming from regular training with all three lifts and some supporting lifts, like the upright row, pullup, powercleans etc.

If you can bench between 50-100 lbs above these levels, you're probably consuming a good deal of creatine or amino's and have favorable strength genetics.

Anything still above that is probably roid territory, I guess.

when i was 18, i did 369 @ 198 body weight, which is on the wabdl web site incase you dont believe me. later that year, i did a competition 400 lift, then did 425 comp. style lift in my buddies garage. i do not take any hgh, androgens, or testosterone boosting supplements. when i competed i didnt take anything but protein. but in all honesty, weight lifting is stupid and gets real old real fast. who gives a shit if i can bench press 400 pounds when their are a lot of people who lift a lot less than me who would kill me in a fight.

[Andrew WA]

If weight lifting is stupid then why did you post about it and try to impress me? Your an idiot. You dont impress me at all of scare me. I am confident enough in my abilities to kick your ass any day of the weak.

If I had the money and free time I would come to your city and kick your ass over and over for fun. I could do it too. I can kick your head sooo easy. Your a stupid wrestling neanderthal jock!! You disrespect women as well. You have no discipline and you talk trash. You will go down one day and it will be hilarious.

You dont know who you are messing with. You dont know anything about me except for my kung fu movie website. You dont know what I can do. A real Taekwondo fighter is very deadly. This isnt your ignorant idea of olympic BS. This is serious fighting.

If you are such an avid weight lifter you are most likely a real slow dork in a fight and you could tire way faster then other people because your too heavy. You think you can just take me down and beat me up, but you wouldnt be able to. Even if you DID take me down I know enough to get out of it and procede to kick your ass. I train in TAEKWONDO, not olympics. I dont scream like a girl like Steven Lopez, but you certainly would be if I ever got you in a fight.

Watch the load of crap you talk, you dont know who you are messing with online, one day someone who DOES live in your town could very well take you up on your accepting the challenge and then actually meet you and kick your ass.

In fact if ANYONE lives in OK where this moron is from and you train in TAekwondo or evenb Karate or KUNG FU then go and be my guess to kick this idiots ass and humble him.

[zhorner]

If weight lifting is stupid then why did you post about it and try to impress me? Your an idiot. You dont impress me at all of scare me. I am confident enough in my abilities to kick your ass any day of the weak.

If I had the money and free time I would come to your city and kick your ass over and over for fun. I could do it too. I can kick your head sooo easy. Your a stupid wrestling neanderthal jock!! You disrespect women as well. You have no discipline and you talk trash. You will go down one day and it will be hilarious.

You dont know who you are messing with. You dont know anything about me except for my kung fu movie website. You dont know what I can do. A real Taekwondo fighter is very deadly. This isnt your ignorant idea of olympic BS. This is serious fighting.

If you are such an avid weight lifter you are most likely a real slow dork in a fight and you could tire way faster then other people because your too heavy. You think you can just take me down and beat me up, but you wouldnt be able to. Even if you DID take me down I know enough to get out of it and procede to kick your ass. I train in TAEKWONDO, not olympics. I dont scream like a girl like Steven Lopez, but you certainly would be if I ever got you in a fight.

Watch the load of crap you talk, you dont know who you are messing with online, one day someone who DOES live in your town could very well take you up on your accepting the challenge and then actually meet you and kick your ass.

In fact if ANYONE lives in OK where this moron is from and you train in TAekwondo or evenb Karate or KUNG FU then go and be my guess to kick this idiots ass and humble him.

wow, you are very mad. you also talk like you are the toughest GIRL at your tkd/movie review/nap sessions. why would you bash wrestling, it has proven itself time and time again in ufc and pride. how many of those fighters have TKD listed as their primary MA. you also challenge people to come kick my ass. well that is fine.....like i have said, their are many many people a lot tougher than me and would beat the shit out of me. in response to you statement "i have no respect for girls"... i think you should tell girls what to do....if they do not do it.... you hit them. you are obviously very weak. you let some punk-ass 19 year old like myself make you mad with non-intelligent comments like the one about hitting girls. to conclude, any one who wants to come show me how bad-ass their tkd is and whoop me, can. i would greatly appreciate it if you would make sure i dont swallow my tongue after you knock me out. and if you do whoop me, then i will sneak up behind you in about a fortnight or so. and if you whoop me again, i will spontaneously combust.

[koto_ryu]

You have no discipline and you talk trash.

Says the trash-talking TKDer....

A real Taekwondo fighter is very deadly. This isnt your ignorant idea of olympic BS. This is serious fighting.

If serious fighting involves point sparring and chest punches, maybe.

If you are such an avid weight lifter you are most likely a real slow dork in a fight and you could tire way faster then other people because your too heavy.

You see any MMA fighters tiring way faster than other people? Wrestlers? Olympic athletes? Most of them do weight training. That's a ridiculous assumption.

Even if you DID take me down I know enough to get out of it and procede to kick your ass. I train in TAEKWONDO, not olympics....

Watch the load of crap you talk, you dont know who you are messing with

What's the point of all this BS? Both of you need to stfu and quit this e-penis match. You'll both never meet anywhere and you'll probably never fight, so it's useless and, quite frankly, very boring. All Andrew's doing is talking all sorts of garbage and zhorner, you're not exactly helping it either. Most TKD is garbage, but there are some good practitioners (most, however, not in the U.S.). Wrestling works and has for centuries. Weight training does not slow you down. End of discussion.

[zhorner]

Says the trash-talking TKDer....




What's the point of all this BS? Both of you need to stfu and quit this e-penis match. You'll both never meet anywhere and you'll probably never fight, so it's useless and, quite frankly, very boring. All Andrew's doing is talking all sorts of garbage and zhorner, you're not exactly helping it either. Most TKD is garbage, but there are some good practitioners (most, however, not in the U.S.). Wrestling works and has for centuries. Weight training does not slow you down. End of discussion.

i agree with most of what you said. if it is getting boring stop reading it. i really like to piss people off. butt i am also an idiot.

[Tom Yum]

when i was 18, i did 369 @ 198 body weight, which is on the wabdl web site incase you dont believe me. later that year, i did a competition 400 lift, then did 425 comp. style lift in my buddies garage. i do not take any hgh, androgens, or testosterone boosting supplements. when i competed i didnt take anything but protein. but in all honesty, weight lifting is stupid and gets real old real fast.

I was talking about lifting in general, nothing about lifting & fighting. 198 is pretty lean for a 369 bp - I'm not a skeptic. If you've been powerlifting for maybe 5 years and have been taking creatine (I don't think its a testosterone sup) its doable.

When you did that 425 lift, were you wearing a proper shirt? Cause the tension in those shirts can help out with lifts and take away some of that elbow pressure.

[zhorner]

I was talking about lifting in general, nothing about lifting & fighting. 198 is pretty lean for a 369 bp - I'm not a skeptic. If you've been powerlifting for maybe 5 years and have been taking creatine (I don't think its a testosterone sup) its doable.

When you did that 425 lift, were you wearing a proper shirt? Cause the tension in those shirts can help out with lifts and take away some of that elbow pressure.

yes, i was wearing a shirt when i did the 425, i also weighed about 205-210. it was my buddies rage-x that was a size 50, i wear a size 44-46, if i was wearing a good fitting one i would have done closer to 500. those shirts are the reason i dont compete anymore. they are completely retarded. im embarrassed that i even wore one of those retarded monkey suits. they have guys out their attempting 800 pound bench presses who could maybe do 600 raw at best. that is 200 pounds over what you can do on your own. and no, creatine is not a testosterone supp.

[electrorok]

Back to the subject!
zhorner,if tkd isnt your thing than its not your thing. Just dont openly bag it in a tkd forum coz many people train in it and obviously take offence to it. But if u have to still take the classes may aswell try to learn something. Heck u might learn only 1 kick which might be good for u. But thats 1 kick more then u knew to start with.

[Tom Yum]

yes, i was wearing a shirt when i did the 425, i also weighed about 205-210. it was my buddies rage-x that was a size 50, i wear a size 44-46, if i was wearing a good fitting one i would have done closer to 500. those shirts are the reason i dont compete anymore. they are completely retarded. im embarrassed that i even wore one of those retarded monkey suits. they have guys out their attempting 800 pound bench presses who could maybe do 600 raw at best. that is 200 pounds over what you can do on your own. and no, creatine is not a testosterone supp.

I don't wear the shirt. I'm sure I could put on 50+ lbs on my bench but I don't want to kid myself.

[zhorner]

I don't wear the shirt. I'm sure I could put on 50+ lbs on my bench but I don't want to kid myself.

that is a very good idea and i respect you for your choice. their are way too many non-athletic turds who cannot walk in a straight line, that are bench pressing over 500 pounds.

[guy incognito]

TKD is retarded. Deal with it!
We all know TKD is a sport it's not for fighting. But I agree that one kick you do learn might be handy........... Sometimes.............In a real self defence system not girly slaps!

[koto_ryu]

TKD is retarded. Deal with it!
We all know TKD is a sport it's not for fighting. But I agree that one kick you do learn might be handy........... Sometimes.............In a real self defence system not girly slaps!

SOME TKD is retarded, but not all of it.

[sirmattu]

wow incognito, that had to be the most wrong thing ive heard i all of '05! if its so retarded then why do so many people cross train in it?

[Tom Yum]

TKD is allright. The stance is a little to upright and back, to allow easy kicking. The only problem is that is a disadvantage if a guy can get inside and is a decent boxer or wrestler.

Yeah, some TKD guys get some serious snap and power in their kicks.

[medic06]

A real Taekwondo fighter is very deadly.

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Just wanted to beat jubaji to the post. . .