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  • #16
    this dude doesnt care about real fighting...hes doing it for a fancy-pants gymnastic/tkd competition...duh!

    also...hey andrew wa! your triple kick doesnt work either you ancestral necrophiliac.

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    • #17
      Andrew Wa... I'm shocked at your post..... you tell him to forget about useless flashy stuff and then explain to him how to do it in a COMPLETELY SPORT STYLE WAY. How is that effective? Effective at scoring points? ya I bet it is. To some of us effective means kill shot, how to defend yourself effectively in a kill or be killed situation. Did you even read the posts previous to yours? He was asking about the triple jumping front snap... you know, 3 kicks IN THE AIR before you touch the ground. Not triple turning kick where your foot plants on the ground in the middle of the 3 kicks.

      Why do people care that he wants to practice this?

      Damian Mavis
      Honour TKD

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      • #18
        There is no problem with someone trying to learn flashy kicks. Ryo continue to train you triple kick.

        This is what gets me.... Triple kick does nothing to help with someones training for a streetfight? Think about this, when you first start the technique, you may only have the ability to kick 1 1/2 times in the air. After practicing it for 2 months, you now can kick all three times at the height of your jump. Not only can you perform the kick, but you have the power and accuracy to break broads.

        Sure that kick can not be used in a street fight, but it help build tendon strength in your hips, legs muscles, lower back muscles, waist strength, kick accuaracy, and general endurance. All those ppl who think those fancy kicks do nothing for street fighting or self defense must think again.

        Doing those kicks help tremendously with foot and leg speed as well as accuaracy. If someone can do that many kicks in the air and make contact the targets or boards, think about what they can do to your knees and legs.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Damian Mavis
          To some of us effective means kill shot, how to defend yourself effectively in a kill or be killed situation. He was asking about the triple jumping front snap... you know, 3 kicks IN THE AIR before you touch the ground.

          Hahahahahaaa

          How many people have you killed by jumping up in the air and kicking three times?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Damian Mavis
            Andrew Wa... I'm shocked at your post..... you tell him to forget about useless flashy stuff and then explain to him how to do it in a COMPLETELY SPORT STYLE WAY. How is that effective? Effective at scoring points? ya I bet it is. To some of us effective means kill shot, how to defend yourself effectively in a kill or be killed situation. Did you even read the posts previous to yours? He was asking about the triple jumping front snap... you know, 3 kicks IN THE AIR before you touch the ground. Not triple turning kick where your foot plants on the ground in the middle of the 3 kicks.

            Why do people care that he wants to practice this?

            Damian Mavis
            Honour TKD

            I dont think you know what you are talking about. The tripple kick is not just for sport. It can be done in a real fight. I spar a lot with my friends in other martial arts and I have pulled off a lot of stuff that worked. Its not about points its about knocking someone out. fake, fake, BAM! If you dont agree then whatever...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by TKDTyger
              There is no problem with someone trying to learn flashy kicks. Ryo continue to train you triple kick.

              This is what gets me.... Triple kick does nothing to help with someones training for a streetfight? Think about this, when you first start the technique, you may only have the ability to kick 1 1/2 times in the air. After practicing it for 2 months, you now can kick all three times at the height of your jump. Not only can you perform the kick, but you have the power and accuracy to break broads.

              Sure that kick can not be used in a street fight, but it help build tendon strength in your hips, legs muscles, lower back muscles, waist strength, kick accuaracy, and general endurance. All those ppl who think those fancy kicks do nothing for street fighting or self defense must think again.

              Doing those kicks help tremendously with foot and leg speed as well as accuaracy. If someone can do that many kicks in the air and make contact the targets or boards, think about what they can do to your knees and legs.
              If somoene practices those kicks and also practices free style sparring for self defense then he will be good at fighting. If he only practices gymnastic stuff he will never be good at fighting.
              I think learning those kicks is positive and cool, but they simply are rarely if ever going to be used in a fight.
              There is a lot more to the martial arts then strictly fighting as well, and there is nothing wrong with becoming physically able to do really wild kicks for the sake of just being able to do them. But you must also practice fighting as well.

              There are many masters who are able to fight very well but can also do crazy flying kicks.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Andrew WA
                If somoene practices those kicks and also practices free style sparring for self defense then he will be good at fighting. If he only practices gymnastic stuff he will never be good at fighting.
                I think learning those kicks is positive and cool, but they simply are rarely if ever going to be used in a fight.
                There is a lot more to the martial arts then strictly fighting as well, and there is nothing wrong with becoming physically able to do really wild kicks for the sake of just being able to do them. But you must also practice fighting as well.

                There are many masters who are able to fight very well but can also do crazy flying kicks.
                I agree 100%, When I talk aboiut practicing these kicks, i am talking 20-30 minutes out of a training period. I, myself train for 3 hours 3 days a week (WTF) and practice aerial/demo and SD for 2 hours on tues and thurs. Saturday is free day.

                I do not think anyone primarily trains demo style kicks since those kicks will not get you advanced in the belt systems.

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                • #23
                  JUBAJI, reread my 2 posts slowly, I was definately NOT advocating that triple jumping front snap is a realistic street defence technique. I was pointing out to Andrew Wa that some TKD practitioners are not concerned with what is effective as points in Tournaments but consider a technique effective only if it is realisticly workable on the street.

                  ANDREW WA, well.... I'm a 4th degree International Instructor thats been training TKD for 15 years, I run schools in Canada and Thailand, I train multiple other martial arts seriously and have fought in the ring in Thailand full contact muay thai and won using a TKD technique as well as was Canadian middle weight Champion for the GTF one year and have fought on the street effectively a few times. I also do stunts and martial arts action in movies and practice all the flashy stuff you can imagine regularly. If I dont know what I'm talking about when it comes to TKD and it's realistic applicability on the street, in the ring full contact, in the tournament circuit and on the big screen... well then not many people do know what they are talking about. The "scissor kick" I think is what you described (triple roundhouse or triple turning kick) and it is highly effective in WTF tournaments and can lead to a knock out very well, but on the street it is definately a low probability knockout technique.

                  And I'm sorry to disagree with a few other people, I respect someones right to learn the triple jumping front snap and encourage and teach it but It has almost a zero percent chance of being used effectively and realisticly on the street. Although as pointed out, training it develops good muscles and coordination but your time for street effectiveness would be much better spent on the single front snap with no jump, working on the speed, power and accuracy of that simple kick. To the groin or chin it can end a fight immediately, even the shins and solar plexus are excellent one shot targets that could end a fight.

                  If you still disagree with me that is your right, but I do have a lot of experience to back up my opinions and I listed it all so you would know I'm not talking out my ass.

                  Damian Mavis
                  Honour TKD

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                  • #24
                    Damian mavus I dont think you understand the kick im talking about so whatever. Anyway almost anything you can use at an olympic tournament for a kick can be used in self defense as well. You just keep your hands up and dont walk up to them and hug your enemy and try to do a stupid axe kick that close.


                    Anyway rock on with all your accomplishments. I wish I could do stuff like that but I could never find a decent teacher to train me well. Im basically on my own all the time.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Andrew WA
                      Damian mavus I dont think you understand the kick im talking about so whatever. Anyway almost anything you can use at an olympic tournament for a kick can be used in self defense as well. You just keep your hands up and dont walk up to them and hug your enemy and try to do a stupid axe kick that close.


                      Anyway rock on with all your accomplishments. I wish I could do stuff like that but I could never find a decent teacher to train me well. Im basically on my own all the time.
                      dude, your way better off by yourself anyway. i dont know how many friday and saturday nights im up at the wrestling room working my ass off by myself while everyone else is out drinking and smoking pot.

                      do not use the fact that you cannot find a good trainer as the reason why you dont have a huge list of accomplishments. who cares if anyone else knows how good you are. just keep on bettering yourself and only show society 60% of what you can really do...

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                      • #26
                        Andrew Wa, anything CAN work, just some things have a low probability of success so I dont advocate them as good street defence techniques. Don't worry about instructors too much. Take what you can from each one and train hard by yourself like Zhorner advised. I got good at certain things by working alone or with friends. Often the actual classes I attended kept me in great shape but didnt increase my skill level as quickly as working the technique over and over when alone.

                        Damian Mavis
                        Honour TKD

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                        • #27
                          Nowadays, with the explosion of popularity in b-boying and martial arts tricks, you can learn all that flashy stuff on your own via the internet, with the exception of maybe the backflip. That, for some people, just requires the help of a trainer or partner. But everything else, virtually all jumping kicks, splits, various flips once you can do a backflip, powermoves of bboying, etc.....are all learnable through the Net. The only things one could have trouble learning are advanced power moves and advanced footwork. But they have videos for that you can buy.

                          Also, for fighting martial arts, if you have a heavybag, you can train for fighting somewhat decently. You go and practice kicking the bag with proper kicks and punches and maneuvering and all that and train cardio, and you'll still be better than a lot of people. There are videos for that too.

                          And grappling. I have a friend who has never taken a grappling class in his life, but learned from videos. He grappled two bodybuilder guys who were stronger than him, but they had no grappling knowledge. He applied the stuff he'd learned and beat them. So you can still learn.

                          Also, remember, even if you can't actually learn to FIGHT well by yourself, you can learn a lot of techniques so that when you start taking lessons, your body is already capable of kicking, punching, etc....fluidly.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by zhorner
                            dude, your way better off by yourself anyway. i dont know how many friday and saturday nights im up at the wrestling room working my ass off by myself while everyone else is out drinking and smoking pot.

                            do not use the fact that you cannot find a good trainer as the reason why you dont have a huge list of accomplishments. who cares if anyone else knows how good you are. just keep on bettering yourself and only show society 60% of what you can really do...
                            Why only 60%?

                            Well I train on my own and do the forms which you think suck. But my friend in Karate comes over and we spar no rules a lot and we do a lot of grappling. In fact I think when we start off we stand up and eventually I move into his kicks and try to grapple just for the sake of grappling practice. he always uses anoying pressure points and hurt my temple really bad once...The first time I choked him out. Every other time he beats me up.
                            Anywau I like doing my kicks and punches at him as well.

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                            • #29
                              Well all I do is lift weights at the gym and I sometimes practice TKD if I even have motivation...sometimes I just dont care and go lift weights and stuff.

                              Now if I DID have a bag I would be using it every day. The gym I have doesnt have one so it sucks.

                              ANyway its just when my friend comes over we just spar and work on other stuff so thats when I really train. I used to go to actual TKD schools and train 5 nights a week but it didnt give me much skill for advanced fighting techniques. But it was still good workouts and good for perfecting my striking techniques myself.

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                              • #30
                                why 60% you ask...

                                because it is funny!

                                hell it is halarious to train by yourself and be better than most people at their fancy gyms.

                                and when you enter society, their is no need to brag about yourself, or try to prove yourself to anyone.

                                for example...i see some idiot giving advice to someone about how to properly do bench press...after he just got done doing 225, 6 times. instead of saying...well no, you are wrong and a complete weakling. i say nothing and just quietly giggle to myself.

                                so the next time you here some monkey bragging about how good he is at tkd...just giggle to yourself and say nothing.

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