Round House Kick

[kuk sool won]

I was actually thing about the ball of the foot even smaller surface area to amke contact with...and quiet sturdy...

Apologies

[GranFire]

LOL! I wasn't arguing, just wondering...

[kurt_myers0369]

Would you be rather hit hit by a 2x4 or a lead pipe....

A lead pipe only hurts more b/c its heavier, the shin is alot heavier than the ball of the foot... Your point is moot.

[GranFire]

The shin is still a harder surface than the instep. Thinking about it its probably a smaller impact area aswell. feel your Shin, its pointy, serious contact is only going to be 2 - 3 inches at the most in width whereas the top of the foot could potentially contain the entire width of the foot. As for length its going to be about the for both again. Due to the ankle joint there is always going to be some give when connecting with it.

I was actually thing about the ball of the foot even smaller surface area to amke contact with...and quiet sturdy...

[Sagacious Lu]

Hey question--is there much difference between a tae kwon do roundhouse and a muay thai roundhouse?

I remember we went through this in a thread a while ago, although I can't find it now. I think XF said that there were a couple different variations, and that there was a type of TKD that does use the same technique as the thai boxers and that there were others that don't.

[Hardball]

Hey question--is there much difference between a tae kwon do roundhouse and a muay thai roundhouse?

[Sagacious Lu]

Would you be rather hit hit by a 2x4 or a lead pipe....

Being larger taked away part of the power, does it not?

Believe you me, one can kick plenty hard with the naked foot! Had the bruises to prove it!


Edited to add: Of course, one also has to aim better.

Muay Thai fighters use the shin to strike when they throw round house kicks. They spend hour after hour condtioning their shins to do this by kicking heavy bags. I've thrown roundhouse kicks a couple different ways and I'm convinced that the thai boxers are right about the shin hitting harder. You'd probably get a better answer in the Muay Thai forum though, because although they aren't the ONLY style that includes this kick it is their signature technique.

[kuk sool won]

The shin is still a harder surface than the instep. Thinking about it its probably a smaller impact area aswell. feel your Shin, its pointy, serious contact is only going to be 2 - 3 inches at the most in width whereas the top of the foot could potentially contain the entire width of the foot. As for length its going to be about the for both again. Due to the ankle joint there is always going to be some give when connecting with it.

[GranFire]

Would you be rather hit hit by a 2x4 or a lead pipe....

Being larger taked away part of the power, does it not?

Believe you me, one can kick plenty hard with the naked foot! Had the bruises to prove it!


Edited to add: Of course, one also has to aim better.

[kurt_myers0369]

Because the shin is a narder, larger, sharper bone. Not just a bunch of little bones. Would you rather be hit by a switch or a baseball bat?

[GranFire]

How do you figure that the shin would have a higher impact than the ball of the foot, assuming the velosity is the same?

Last I checked, the preassure is greater when the area it's applied to is smaller...(seems to mee I'd rather take a shin than a foot...)

[kuk sool won]

really and truely it is where you strike from, if you can make a connection with the shin then thats great, but when you see a definate opening that can only make contact with the instep due to the extended distance then you would be insane to pass on the chance.

[kurt_myers0369]

Maybe you should ask yourself what you would rather be kicked WITH? Personally I would rather be kicked with the instep or ball than the shin, because I would like to walk away from the fight... The shin is deadliest. Period.

[Fluffy]

For power I use the ball of my foot, in sparring I use my instep.

As for targeting - I hit whatever is open.

[13ang]

Well if you look at the three main weapons, you can see pros/cons to each one. The ball of the foot is great to penetrate someones defense and get into a place that the instep canot reach. HOWEVER, you loose some of your power and momentum when you do it this way, you can also break your toes of you snag them on something, and it takes a lot of training to build it up as a solid weapon.

The shin is sharp and hard, but it lacks in range, and it can be painfull if you have not built up the bone. I use this very rarely, unless im very close to the opponent, like I would normaly use a knee.

The instep is what I use when I kick the heavy bag(however ne of the masters at my school was telling me tonight to practice kicking the bag with the ball of my foot to build it up), and what I generaly use when im kicking a soft target. Some people in my school realy dislike this method of kicking, as its very easy to break one of the many bones in your foot if you catch an elbow. My friend got in a fight, the other kid tried to kick him with a roundhouse, kicked my friends elbow, and my friend ended up carying him till they could get some help. Some master at my school wont even score a point if you kick with the instep for this reason.

I think that every weapon has its place, however I think that everyone should choose their favorite, and use whatever is most effective for them.