If i was to train in STH Korea.Will they accept my ITF BLACK BELT?

[jubaji]

Jubaji No... the real problem is I'm SPOILED. I live in Bangkok, pretty much THE most exciting place on the planet. I could give examples and try to explain but you wouldn't believe me and would not accept (I'm kinda joking but kinda serious... I've told people stories of this place before and they just couldnt accept it and when they did finally visit me they freaked out... even after I had already told them what to expect). Now wherever I go just seems kinda.... boring, but Korea especially.

Yeah, I get that you really, really like Bangkok, but if you were bored in Korea you didn't experience it properly.

[Damian Mavis]

Jubaji No... the real problem is I'm SPOILED. I live in Bangkok, pretty much THE most exciting place on the planet. I could give examples and try to explain but you wouldn't believe me and would not accept (I'm kinda joking but kinda serious... I've told people stories of this place before and they just couldnt accept it and when they did finally visit me they freaked out... even after I had already told them what to expect). Now wherever I go just seems kinda.... boring, but Korea especially. Japan was very exciting but I love alot of things about Japan and its culture so maybe it wouldnt be as fun for everyone, they have a huge martial arts culture with so many cool things to train in, not to mention anime and video games..... But Thailand has something for everyone heh, good vacation spot. Even if you do bring a girlfriend heh.

Despoja, all my friends that are SERIOUS TKD practitioners didnt like their experience training in Korea. But dude, any travelling and training in a foreign country is a good experience, I suggest you visit Korea but also make sure you hit Japan and as many other places as you can (Hong Kong, Bangkok if possible). All of them have ITF and WTF schools to visit. And you are welcome to come train at my ITF school in Bangkok as long as you like, if you did come here I would suggest you try living in an authentic muay thai camp and training that for a while too, good stories to tell after you put yourself through that.

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD Thailand

[jubaji]

South Korea is pretty hardcore boring too... so go train in another country! heh

Sounds like you didn't get out much!

[ITFDespoja]

So are u seroius. its not worth goin to south korea???

[Damian Mavis]

No no no heh, I already said I'm sure they have excellent TKD, but they also have the WORST yes the WORST. Yes I've been there. And most of my friends in the WTF have visited there and trained. They would go to watch 4th degree black belt testings that looked like the equivalent of a green belt from Canada. South Korea INVENTED THE MCDOJO. They are the kings of selling rank, making money and pumping out useless black belts. Everyone in the WTF I've talked to about it all says the same damn thing heh. I prefer ITF style but I've trained WTF alot and see them both as TKD.

I didnt say you should visit NKorea... but no they won't kill you, they do get tourists. It's just a very sad lame place.... I wouldnt want to go there. South korea is just a little boring, pretty dry place. Honestly man I would encourage you to go to Japan and train there. They have many good strong ITF schools but also a ton of excellent karate schools and other arts. And Japan is very exciting and interesting, it's my favorite place in the whole world. If you decide to go I'll give you numbers and addresses of ITF schools if you like.

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD Thailand

[ITFDespoja]

Yes i do know that all Nth korea in ITF my Sabum nim has told me many stories. With ur opinion about south korean tkd is abit harsh mate. sayin sth Koreans having the worst Tkd in the world. You sure u arent sayin that cous u have a ITF backround?? how would u know> have u been there? and have u meet seen what the standard is like there. Sorry but i do not agree with u sayin that. There is some incridable practioners in south Korea. practioners such as Taekwondo Master Shin Chul Kang the man that can do a 180 side kick seroiusly NOW this guy has PRESENCE (have u heard of him Alcohol, and would u know where his tkd school is??? it would be a honour to train with him. he is like another general choi) people live a breath taekwondo over there and offcourse its part of there culture and thats who i wanna be assocaited with. i do agree with you that i should go to north Korea, and do the ITF TKD there. Because thats what i do and there standard also is incridable. i have many of nth korea ITF videos. There technique is amazing. But seroiusly me goin to NTH KOREA! thats fucken crazy! they will kill as soon they know im a aussie. Havin said that in my opinion South koreans WTF are just as good the north koreans. LOOK AT Master Shin Chul Kang HE IS SOMETHING!. Back in the day i yousta think ITF tkd is the best tkd in the world. Cous ive have the oppintunity to train and meet General Choi. And also with his son. His son Choi Jung Hwa has amazing techique and flexibility there standard was exceptional 100% perfect. But like i said to Alcohol i love all my taekwondo. im open to anything. cant be a lil fish in a small pond. i love all taekwondo and i love my kicks graceful techniques. And the spiritual side to tkd. So training in korea would be something.

[ITFDespoja]

Yes i do know that all Nth korea in ITF my Subum nim has told me many stories. With ur opinion about south korean tkd is abit harsh mate. sayin sth Koreans having the worst Tkd in the world. You sure u arent sayin that cous u have a ITF backround?? how would u know> have u been there? and have u meet seen what the standard is like there. Sorry but i do not agree with u sayin that. There is some incridable practioners in south Korea. practioners such as Taekwondo Master Shin Chul Kang the man that can do a 180 side kick seroiusly NOW this guy has PRESENCE (have u heard of him Alcohol, and would u know where his tkd school is??? it would be a honour to train with him. he is like another general choi) people live a breath taekwondo over there and offcourse its part of there culture and thats who i wanna be assocaited with. i do agree with you that i should go to north Korea, and do the ITF TKD there. Because thats what i do and there standard also is incridable. i have many of nth korea ITF videos. There technique is amazing. But seroiusly me goin to NTH KOREA! thats fucken crazy! they will kill as soon they know im a aussie. Havin said that in my opinion South koreans WTF are just as good the north koreans. LOOK AT Master Shin Chul Kang HE IS SOMETHING!. Back in the day i yousta think ITF tkd is the best tkd in the world. Cous ive have the oppintunity to train and meet General Choi. And also with his son. His son Choi Jung Hwa has amazing techique and flexibility there standard was exceptional 100% perfect. But like i said to Alcohol i love all my taekwondo. im open to anything. cant be a lil fish in a small pond. i love all taekwondo and i love my kicks graceful techniques. And the spiritual side to tkd. So training in korea would be something.

[Damian Mavis]

If you seriously want ITF in Korea there is at least one ITF school in South Korea and North Korea is all ITF now..... since they have the presidency of one of the 3 ITF's. Don't know why you want to train in South Korea though... hope you aren't thinking they have good TKD there. I'm sure they do, but they also have the WORST TKD in the world. It is too common and commercialised and almost everybody seems to have a black belt regardless of ability.

North Korea.... well not the nicest place to be and I personally wouldnt want to visit unless I was with some powerful friends.

South Korea is pretty hardcore boring too... so go train in another country! heh

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD Thailand

[Itachi]

If you are going to korea it also wouldnt be a bad idea to start looking at the very drastic change in sparring. Sparring in collage is a very huge deal so big of a deal i herd not sure if it true but there will be a sparring comp. for like placement almost like getting a scholership.

[dodgeduckdodge]

so Alcohol your sayin all i need to do sign papers to the Kukkiwon and i can get my WTF Black belt?. can i still keep my ITF black belt. How long does this take? do i have to do this in korea and if i was in korea will it take most of my time? and offcourse i dont all know all the WTF patterns

have you meet Grandmaster Kang Alcohol ?

now he has fuckn presence were ever he walks it looks like the ground lowers.

All you need is someone from your country who has a 4th Dan Kukkiwon or above to request a similar Dan transfer from Kukkiwon. If Kukkiwon accepts, they would issue you a Kukkiwon Dan, or Poom certificate depending on your age. If not, you can write Kukkiwon directly for assistance.

By the way, there is no such thing as a WTF Black Belt.

Here is what the Kukkiwon Dan Promotion Regulations say about similar Dan:

Article 18 : Permission of Similar Dan certificates and Jump-up Promotion
1. This applies to one who has a similar Taekwondo Dan certificates, it is required to submit the
following document;
(1) Application for promotion test
(2) Personal history/ Taekwondo career
(3) Explanatory recommendation by the president of the Member National Association. However, in
those countries which do not fall into 1st category, recommendation can be submitted by
president of Member National Association or independent instructors.
(4) Korean staying abroad is required to submit any document of residency in respective foreign
countries.
(5) Other supporting data.

Austrailia is a category 2 Nation, so individual instructors can apply for you.

As far as Master Kang, what is his full name?

Best Regards,

Alcohol

[dodgeduckdodge]

Its good to have someone with such knowledge of TKD joining our board, though it may be late, welcome!

Thanks for the welcome and the compliment. However, there is a lot about Taekwondo that I don't know, but I'm learning.

Alcohol

[ITFDespoja]

so Alcohol your sayin all i need to do sign papers to the Kukkiwon and i can get my WTF Black belt?. can i still keep my ITF black belt. How long does this take? do i have to do this in korea and if i was in korea will it take most of my time? and offcourse i dont all know all the WTF patterns

have you meet Grandmaster Kang Alcohol ?

now he has fuckn presence were ever he walks it looks like the ground lowers.

[kuk sool won]

Its good to have someone with such knowledge of TKD joining our board, though it may be late, welcome!

[dodgeduckdodge]

sure. what about in tkd universities???? will they accept my Black belt?

will they accept my tkd Black belt cous that were i wanna be at. do u know any renowned Universities there?

what do study Alcohol? WTF?

Taekwondo training at a university is a radically different experience from training at a Dojang. At elementary, middle, high school and college, the only Taekwondo training is for sparring competition, and it is very intense.

They would accept you as a Dan holder, however you will find in time that you would need to transfer to a Kukkiwon Dan as you will need an official Kukkiwon Dan number for various paperwork etc.

Most universities in Korea have good Taekwondo competition programs. The top ones being Hankuk Chae Dae, Kyung Hee, and Yong In. I believe that both Yong In and Kyung Hee offer BA/Master/PhD Degrees in Taekwondo as well.

I am involved in teaching and practicing Kukkiwon Taekwondo or what you might think of as WTF. But referring it WTF is actually incorrect.

For the many years that I was a member of the USTU (WTF in the USA), I was affiliated with the WTF. I was a member because I was involved in WTF competitions, but no longer. Being that for several years I have not renewed my USTU (now USAT) membership, I think it's $35, I am not longer affiliated with the WTF. Like anyone, I can rejoin at anytime. However I am still very involved in Kukkiwon Taekwondo and will be for life.

Best Regards,

Alcohol

[ITFDespoja]

sure. what about in tkd universities???? will they accept my Black belt?

will they accept my tkd Black belt cous that were i wanna be at. do u know any renowned Universities there?

what do study Alcohol? WTF?