Techniques against multiple opponents in BJJ

[Nothingness]

Greetings,

It might be just my ignorance, but I can't find techniques in BJJ for facing multiple opponents. I have been looking on the net, in magazines, and even in the Mochado brothers' movie . Could you give me some pointers, please. Thanks in advance.

[CKD]

In Ricardo De La Rivas tape he has a few techniques for multiple opponents. In this review it tells a few http://www.members.aol.com/bjj33/delarivanhb.htm Reylson Gracie I heard teaches defenses against multoples and Joe Moreira has a tape out on BJJ against multiple attackers. Probaly the most common technique is to get behind on of the attackers and choke him and use him as a shield. Many Gracies have used that. Rickson Gracie jas done multiple opponent sparring and won http://www.rickson.com/frame_artic.html but he does not tell what technique he used.

[Green Whale]

I usually see people refer to what someone just mentioned, which is getting behind and using the opponent as a shield while you put the bastard to sleep! I've actually seen some multiple attacker BJJ sparring and it is pretty fun to watch. Your best weapon might be to have fast legs, because they can't beat you up if you run faster than all of them

[Green Whale]

Speaking of Rickson, I actually have footage of him, some old stuff, pretty rare when I got ahold of it 6 years ago. But in it, he faces off against two opponents and he gets taken down and one attacker puts on a rear choke and Rickson taps. It wasn't straight up sparring, it looked like a demo that they tried to make look real, but it was pretty strange. It was at the very end of the footage that had Rickson doing a BJJ demo with some military or karate guys. He's busting front kicks and everything.

[Nothingness]

Speaking of Rickson, I actually have footage of him, some old stuff, pretty rare when I got ahold of it 6 years ago. But in it, he faces off against two opponents and he gets taken down and one attacker puts on a rear choke and Rickson taps. It wasn't straight up sparring, it looked like a demo that they tried to make look real, but it was pretty strange. It was at the very end of the footage that had Rickson doing a BJJ demo with some military or karate guys. He's busting front kicks and everything.

Could you set it up on a page for downloading, please? TIA

[shasan]

I haven't come across any BJJ techniques for fighting multiple opponents. At least, no Gracie techniques/strategies. Their philosophy is to retreat.

I believe there was an article by Royce in Black Belt magazine EXACTLY about this issue, if anyone cares to post a link? it was posted in a recent thread. I got the impression from the article that Royce Gracie believes you can't win against multiple attackers for the most part, and that he would not get into that kind of a fight.

[Ronson]

BJJ Tip for Multiple Opponents:

1. Take out one guy and destroy him badly with a choke or joint lock and hopefully this takes the fight out of the other guys

Or if they all attack at once,

2. Use your grappling/BJJ skills to stay OFF the ground. Use your sense of balance and body positioning to take guys down w/o you going with them. The main thing is to stay off the ground and make sure no one gets you clinched or tied up so that someone can get behind you or overwhelm you

3. Fickin' run dude, seriously. This will hopefully isolate/reduce the # of opponents. But seriously, the validity and reliability of an effective multiple attack defence is seriously lacking and flawed. Nothing has been proven to work (even at an acceptable level, scientifically speaking) as there are too many variables (known and unknown), hence in this topic there are only theories, conjecture, and common-sense advice.

[Nothingness]

BJJ Tip for Multiple Opponents:
Or if they all attack at once,

2. Use your grappling/BJJ skills to stay OFF the ground. Use your sense of balance and body positioning to take guys down w/o you going with them. The main thing is to stay off the ground and make sure no one gets you clinched or tied up so that someone can get behind you or overwhelm you

So, in the light of point number 2, it is alike to Judo or any Jujutsu ryus? In Judo and Aikido they use an opponent body to throw him to another.

Am I the only one here that thinks that if used properly, Judo is also a very strong self-defense art?

And I am not even a Judoka in a traditional sense .

[CKD]

Speaking of Rickson, I actually have footage of him, some old stuff, pretty rare when I got ahold of it 6 years ago. But in it, he faces off against two opponents and he gets taken down and one attacker puts on a rear choke and Rickson taps. It wasn't straight up sparring, it looked like a demo that they tried to make look real, but it was pretty strange. It was at the very end of the footage that had Rickson doing a BJJ demo with some military or karate guys. He's busting front kicks and everything.

Busting front kicks? What does that mean? Doing front kicks or grabbing the other persons leg and throwing them down?

[Ronson]

Hey Nothingness,

Although I don't exclusively train in Judo, I think it's a very solid (notice I didn't say complete) self defence art to learn and possibly intergrate with other fighting styles. I would'nt put Aikido in the category as Judo (for the most part as some here will claim a sect or that there Aikido school trains realistically) as Judo trains w/o forms or pre arranged attack per say; you spar with a fully resisting opponent where as in Aikido, whether they want to admit it or not, require some level of cooperation from the opponent.

[Nothingness]

Ronson,

I am in the same position with you. I am learning it without being clouded with Kodokan's competition rules. Honestly, I see Judo technics as very effective ammos while integrated with a strong striking-based MA. But, let's not hijack the issue here . I am still interested in finding out how BJJ are used against multiple opponents.

[CKD]

It seems the most common techniques is to get behind one opponent and use him as a shield while choking him out and the other one is to quickly peform takedowns on both opponents. The most widely used one is to run.

[sherwinc]

It seems the most common techniques is to get behind one opponent and use him as a shield while choking him out and the other one is to quickly peform takedowns on both opponents. The most widely used one is to run.

i just instantly remember like an Akido Fighter versus 3 WingChun Opponents

Note:

for example:
(a Grappler and his 3 MuayThai Opponents .... all of them are on the same level of years practiced on thier arts)

How can a Grappler can fight versus his 3 MuayThai Opponents???????

Note:
if the only option is to run......... then you are using Jet Kung Dumalagan..... a Filipino term for Jeet Kune Do (Philippine Illonggo Dialect)

[Uncle Corny]

I'm missing a chromosome

keep it up, sweetie.

[Tant01]

i just instantly remember like an Akido Fighter versus 3 WingChun Opponents

Note:

for example:
(a Grappler and his 3 MuayThai Opponents .... all of them are on the same level of years practiced on thier arts)

How can a Grappler can fight versus his 3 MuayThai Opponents???????

Note:
if the only option is to run......... then you are using Jet Kung Dumalagan..... a Filipino term for Jeet Kune Do (Philippine Illonggo Dialect)

Hello all, pardon my intrusion... I must admit enjoying the humor in your posts. There was a good question about multiple opponents but let me cut to the heart of it. Theory goes if you kill one the others will run but that's not very sporting so you have no gun or knife? The disparity in numbers would seem to justify deadly force so use your Ju- jitsu? Why choke one and use him for a shield? Break his neck straight away and go immediatly for the next closest or most threatening "opponent" If there are only three the shield thing may work but for how long? If these men are only opponents and not real attackers? What? Maybe I'm too OLD school but there are some judo locks ala Gene Lebell that can controll one man while you can activly engage the other one or two men (aka Aikido) The evasive footwork, trapping and Atemi waza can be done with one hand? Throw down time! Atemi striking Judo (Ju-Jitsu) style can deal with numbers well enough. They aren't thinking about stomping insteps or chopping a Clavical? The Tanto-jutsu striking techniques don't require a knife or stick you see? They help, but trauma to the neck (trachea) will cause a reaction that gives you precious time. Brutal, destructive, bone breaking trauma. It's the only way to go. Your weapons work, use them! Whats the difference between a submission lock and a limb destruction? About 35 pounds of torque! Side kick the locked knee? Aim for his neck or palm strike that chin! What have you got to loose? Sepreate his Atlas from C-2! A little (great violent) twist will do...
I don't know,I've never been attacked by three Muay Thai opponents, how does a grappler fight them without resorting to "Cobb's traverse"? (running away)???

All the best and thanks for the space!