striking the neck and throat

[jubaji]

I think you need to take your own advice, because you are just the typical ignorant arrogant BJJ jackass. .

I've told you before; I don't practice BJJ.

Try sparring your own kind and let there be throat strikes and pinching and pressure points and anything else like scratching and bitting and you tell me if it doesnt work.

Ok....Hang on a sec.






...It doesn't work.

[Garland]

Jubaji...study a little anatomy.

Secondly,
You don't need to know how to fight in order to kill somebody.
People get beaten to death every day by people who have had exactly 0 training.

There is a huge difference between a confrontation out of the ring, and those inside of it. In a ring, certain things are illegal...ask yourself why those things are against the rules...

Because.....why, jubaji, fill in the blank.

Let me knee you in the nuts, you can tell me yourself if it works, and if not, I'll take back all of the shit I said.

Better yet, let me jab you in the eye with a pen...I'm sure that won't work either...nor would hitting you in the throat, because your superman, and you are the deadliest, most expert, elite, killing machine on the planet, and you know so much more than anyone.

I bet bullets bounce off of you, right jubaji?
Or you can catch them in mid flight with your teeth and spit them back, using your super stealth ninja techniques.

[jubaji]

Let me knee you in the nuts, .

Better yet, let me jab you in the eye with a pen...
.

Well don't that just say it all? "Let me" do this and "let me" do that.

Heeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooo Is this sinking in yet?

[jubaji]

There is a huge difference between a confrontation out of the ring, and those inside of it. In a ring, certain things are illegal...ask yourself why those things are against the rules...
.

And here again we have "Da Street" fallacy.

[Garland]

um, no it doesn't.
I don't need any specific set-up, or lead up to get those vital points, I create MY own openings for which to hit where I want, when I want...And if not, I'll take hits to give hits. Just last night I busted some kid's nose on ACCIDENT (the kid's a close friend of mine, too) with a knee...just messing around with these kids boxing light bare knuckle, with kicks, knees, grappling, etc...I could see openings where I could have easily inserted any of the foul tactic tools I've mentioned this far. But since we were just playing around, I did real simple and quick subs and techniques that are relatively low risk for injury...

You can create openings by striking or grappling, because people have natural inclinations to move certain ways, and if not, you just keep hitting.

I could be boxing with somebody for awhile, and they'd never expect a kick to the balls, because they'd be too busy focusing on boxing with me.

What I was getting to earlier is....


how in the holy-**** can you deny that a hit to the throat, balls, or eyes will not do immense damage to somebody? there is a very good reason why those types of hits are not allowed in ring fights...because of safety issues. Now why would they allow me to punch and kick somebody essentially everywhere except for those places?

If you have a better explaination, please indulge me.
Otherwise, you are simply talking shit, and you have absolutely NOTHING to back it up with.

Please, humor me with your expertise, why aren't strikes to those areas ineffective? Keep in mind I'm not talking about one hit wonder bullshit...if I'm going to hit somebody in the balls, it's either going to be after hitting them or grappling with them for a while, or as a real cheapshot, super-punch type thing.

[Garland]

Better yet, Jubaji...what do you train, how do you train, and did you ever compete in anything, any ring fights....any "other" fights...why should I lend ANY credibility to your statements?

[jubaji]

why aren't strikes to those areas ineffective? .

You got it wrong. They ARE ineffective. Because the boxer is going to punch you in the head while you are wasting your time trying to stimulate meridian #24-G of the fluttering liver, and the wrestler is going to pick you up and put your head through the ground while you are trying to oh-so-cleverly pinch the bicep or whatever bullshit that is, and the BJJ-er will be so kind as to break your arm while you are reaching around to take off his false eyelashes.

Wasting time with shit like that means not focusing on the real skills. You know, the ones that people actually practice thousands of times again and again full-go in actual live situations. Its Danny Dojo who stands there perfectly still screaming like a little girl while some paunchy old dude in a ponytail gropes at him like a Catholic Priest at a Cub Scout meeting who has to put all his faith in "dirty tricks" because he has nothing else. Danny Dojo is only buying himself a bigger ass-whuppin' by believing he can avoid the fact that he has no skills.

You will notice that people with real skills do not go on about such things.

[jubaji]

Better yet, Jubaji...what do you train, how do you train, and did you ever compete in anything, any ring fights....any "other" fights...why should I lend ANY credibility to your statements?

Me? I'm mostly a wrestler. I've had my share of success with that. But I've been here and there and seen this and that and had the chance to test against quite a few things as it turns out. And like many young men, had my years of 'excitability' before becoming the charming gentleman you see before you today.

None of which seems particularly relevant to the topic at hand.

[Garland]

You got it wrong. They ARE ineffective. Because the boxer is going to punch you in the head while you are wasting your time trying to stimulate meridian #24-G of the fluttering liver, and the wrestler is going to pick you up and put your head through the ground while you are trying to oh-so-cleverly pinch the bicep or whatever bullshit that is, and the BJJ-er will be so kind as to break your arm while you are reaching around to take off his false eyelashes.

Wasting time with shit like that means not focusing on the real skills. You know, the ones that people actually practice thousands of times again and again full-go in actual live situations. Its Danny Dojo who stands there perfectly still screaming like a little girl while some paunchy old dude in a ponytail gropes at him like a Catholic Priest at a Cub Scout meeting who has to put all his faith in "dirty tricks" because he has nothing else. Danny Dojo is only buying himself a bigger ass-whuppin' by believing he can avoid the fact that he has no skills.

You will notice that people with real skills do not go on about such things.

What was it in ANY of my previous posts that led you to believe that I believe in pressure points or any of that "meridian" "dim smack" shit?

I've had training in BJJ, shooto, JKD, FMA (Inosanto blend, a little sayoc, and some more pekiti/dekiti tirsia) and a few years of training under some of the best Muay Thai instructors in the world. (I'm 19)

None of these systems formally recognise any of the point touch crap, and are all very much all buisness.
The dirty fighting tactics come out of the trapping aspects of Jun Fan Gungfu, the predessessor of JKD (which is more of a series of concepts and guidelines) which originate out of wing chun.
More of them come out of the FMA stuff...and if you doubt the realism of arts like sayoc kali, and dekiti tirsia...look it up. The dekiti tirsia system incorporates small arms shooting in it's curriculum for military training in the philippines.

You know what BJJ is. Shooto is submission wrestling. Jun Fan covers the trapping range, as well as a series of feints. Muay Thai is supherb for stand-up, and DOES incorporate western boxing, at least the way I was trained. FMA is great for weapons and learning to end fights quick, and works suprisingly well when mixed with Wing Chun style trapping, and JKD is what helps me bring it all together and tie it with a nice little bow.

I do not do the, "oh you stand like this and let me poke you with my thumb in this area of your inner thigh and you'll die in 7 days if you watch this video", crap.


Oh, and buy the way, how do you get a nun pregnant?

[jubaji]

Oh, and buy the way, how do you get a nun pregnant?

I don't know, but as long as you don't make a habit of it its not that important.

[jubaji]

(I'm 19)

19?! you're barely out of the birth canal!

Oy! Da kids wit da computers and da talking and da chatting and whatnot. I don't understand this generation, I don't I tell you. What wit da pinching and da chewing and whatnot. Oy-vey!

[Garland]

I don't know, but as long as you don't make a habit of it its not that important.

dress them up as altar boys.

[Garland]

19?! you're barely out of the birth canal!

Oy! Da kids wit da computers and da talking and da chatting and whatnot. I don't understand this generation, I don't I tell you. What wit da pinching and da chewing and whatnot. Oy-vey!

oy-ka-vey, now I'm all veklempt...thankx ya schmuck.

You got limewire? Kazaa??
You need to burn the new System of a Down.
NEED to.
Lost in Hollywood
Violent Pornography
great songs...

"I was standing on the wall, feeling ten feet tall
all you maggots smoking fags on Sunset Boulevard
all you bitches put your hands in the air and wave-em-like-you just-don't-care..."
Ah....zen. satori, baby.

[Garland]

"my penis is Much bigger than yourrrrrrssssss"

and since I'm young, I can still use it, oh yeah, huuuuuwaaaaaahhhhh.
many times in a row.

"it's a violent pornography, choking chikcs and sodomy, the kinda shit you get on the t.v., everybody everybody everybody living now, everybody fucks, everybody everybody everybody living now, everybody sucks, everybody everybody everybody everybody living now, everybody dies, everybody everybody everybody cries..."
turn off your tv....
da da da da can you say brain washing, braaaiinnn wasssshhhhhiiiinnnnngggggg
it's a non-stop disco.

this cocaine makes me feel like I'm on this song.

[Garland]

19?! you're barely out of the birth canal!

yeah, tell your wife I might have paid her too much, and I want that 3.50 back. Blue balls are a bitch, huh...