Anyone get the feeling that you are the "odd man out" with traditional styles?

[Ryu (non-working password]

Even traditional judo enthusiasts?

I have somewhat noticed that people tend to stick stereotypes on me when they hear I am into "BJJ" and "NHB" as well as traditional judo, etc. I sometimes feel not excluded, but perhaps a bit "type cast" or not taken seriously by some traditional martial artists.
Even on E-budo I sometimes feel like I may left out of the group so to speak. Here I'm fine, but I wonder if any of you have felt that when you talk to traditional martial artists? Or anyone in general in regards to MA?

Anyone?

I could just be paranoid though.

Ryu

[klif]

Not fitting in on E-Budo.com is a good thing.

[sccr06]

Sort of

My group trains in the same dojo as a Tang Soo Do (sp?) class and TKD and Kickboxing. Sometimes we get funny looks and lots of times we get the instructors, no less, commenting "well, you'd never get ME on the ground!"

I just blow it off.

[duchman]

HA!

This is fameliar. When i say i'm into muay thai people look at me like i'm some king of criminal.

[Tony10]

Hmmm. I sense people who feel threatened if that is the case...

[Jaguar Wong]

Yeah, I think that kinda makes us rogues with the Traditional crowd

I've been doing traditional Northern Shaolin for about 6 years now, and I even teach a few of the beginner classes, and people in my own school look at me differently since I started a little bjj and wrestling. I don't know if it's because my attitude changed a little (I no longer take peoples word when they say a technique works, I gotta see it to beleive it). The 100% effort that you put into the training gave me a new appreciation of the traditional stuff I'm doing, and how I should train it. I think the traditional crowd kinda looks at us like we no longer have faith in the style. Almost as if we're giving up and jumping on the fad style.

The only reason I started bjj was because after rolling with a few grapplers I tried to see how I can train my traditional stuff differently to work against them, but instead, I really liked the stuff they were doing, and I started learning it, so I can escape. Then from there, after escaping from a guillotine, or passing the guard, I found myself keeping the fight down, and moving for a submission. The feeling of slapping a clean armbar on someone felt good. So instead of just relying on altering my existing style, I just added bjj to my arsenal, cause I loved it.

I guess the traditional people don't want to admit that something that they might like may be missing from their training. I think the live, full on training gives you a new look on the arts in general, but they just want to wallow in their false security instead of checking their ego at the door and really testing what they know.

Ah well, what can ya say. I guess being out of the in crowd is better for ya.

[dan downard]

My T.K.D. instructor watched two U.F.C. tapes and started ground training.He was the second place winner in the World T.K.D. championships and very good.
So,I would have to say that it depends on the person.
If these guys are watching your class and still scofing at it,then they have brainwashed themselves.
Offer the guys that think they cant be taken down a chance to prove it.Sounds like a great opportunity for you to practice takedowns with strikers.Use them like tools!

[Ryu (non-working password]

Dan,
Actually I was just talking about holding conversations with people who are martial artists. Like on forums, etc that are not geared towards BJJ and MMA, but say traditional judo, etc.

As far as the challenge matches go... I admit it's fun to work with guys who claim they can't be taken down. Hehe
I had one guy literally try to jump up and knee me in the head once when I grabbed a single leg. He took himself down hard LOL

But seriously, what do you do with people when you are just talking about martial arts? You kind of get a feeling that they don't trust your judgment or something.

Ryu

[Tony10]

They're threatened, that's all.

People who are truly proficient martial artists would never have that reaction, because they'd have an open mind...

Dontcha think?

[Robin Hood]

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[troll's lover]

Robin Hood! There you are!
I hear you like to swing a certain way. Is it true?

[Ryu (non-working password]

Tony10,
Maybe that's it. Although at times I don't know if it really them being threatened or the fact that a lot of Traditional artists see NHB sport as "neandrathal" or "low class" or something.

Anybody have similar experiences?

Ryu

[Tony10]

Robin Hood: LOL!

[troll's lover]

Our leotarded friend, Robin is only kidding. He doesn't like to sleep much. Not when guys are involved.

[edro]

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