Puseys

[BoarSpear]

Ah...but it's that type of presumtious mentality that breeds agoraphobics.
Paranoia isn't a key thing to being a martial artist.
So just stop thinking that everything is preventable. Sometimes shit happens, you cannot always see everything coming at you.
You try being too aware and you tend to anticipate...when you anticipate, your in fear....why be afraid all the time? Even if it's manifested in machismo and posturing...you may have won the battle...but you've already lost the war.

I dunno...just my metaphysical 2 cents up in the hizzie.
Take it or leave it.

"paranoia" implies there was no threat...i would say any argument at a soccer game is a situation where COMMON SENSE would apply..."i probably shouldnt turn my back on a hostile asshole" ...See if that was me i would have moved...fine, call me paranoid...if that was you garland you would have stayed?...i would call you in the hospital....see the difference? maybe its not that i am paranoid...maybe you arent paying attention to the threats at hand, or choosing to ignore them because it disturbs your comfort level...

My point to posting that clip has been made...those who study martial arts as a tool to better themselves and thier chances of surviving an assault think differently about self defence and the world than those who train for fun and sport. See i know i will NEVER need to defend myself from a professional mma fighter in the ring...however a nut on a plane or in a mall, mcdonalds, a gas station, a sporting event or road rage...or how about after a natural or man made disaster...these things might cost me my life, as opposed to losing a match...i study the martial arts for a different reason...go ahead call me paranoid... if people in the past had not been PARANOID enough to devise systems of unarmed combat you might not have a sport today to play with after watering it down ...

And oh yeah...while everything isnt preventable that sure as hell was...if you go through life with the attitude that it doesnt make sense to be aware of your enviroment, because some things cant be prevented you might have a rude awakening....most auto accidents are not accidents...accidents are unaviodable...most wrecks occur because of people not paying attention to the world around them while they are talking on the phone, yelling at thier kids, putting on makeup, changing the radio station or hunting a cd, eating ,having sex , reading newspapers and books or watching freakin tv! ie they are doing everything except paying attention! if you learn to be aware of your enviroment after a while its automatic...you dont even realize you are doing it until your BS alarm goes off and you find yourself watching a threat unfold. people are taught to be unaware..."god is watching over you, the police are protecting you, the military is protecting you," etc...thanks but i will take responsability for watching my own ass...

Paying attention is NOT paranoia...it is common sense.

[Garland]

"paranoia" implies there was no threat...i would say any argument at a soccer game is a situation where COMMON SENSE would apply..."i probably shouldnt turn my back on a hostile asshole" ...See if that was me i would have moved...fine, call me paranoid...if that was you garland you would have stayed?...i would call you in the hospital....see the difference? maybe its not that i am paranoid...maybe you arent paying attention to the threats at hand, or choosing to ignore them because it disturbs your comfort level...

My point to posting that clip has been made...those who study martial arts as a tool to better themselves and thier chances of surviving an assault think differently about self defence and the world than those who train for fun and sport. See i know i will NEVER need to defend myself from a professional mma fighter in the ring...however a nut on a plane or in a mall, mcdonalds, a gas station, a sporting event or road rage...or how about after a natural or man made disaster...these things might cost me my life, as opposed to losing a match...i study the martial arts for a different reason...go ahead call me paranoid... if people in the past had not been PARANOID enough to devise systems of unarmed combat you might not have a sport today to play with after watering it down ...

And oh yeah...while everything isnt preventable that sure as hell was...if you go through life with the attitude that it doesnt make sense to be aware of your enviroment, because some things cant be prevented you might have a rude awakening....most auto accidents are not accidents...accidents are unaviodable...most wrecks occur because of people not paying attention to the world around them while they are talking on the phone, yeling at thier kids, putting on makeup, changing the radio station or hunting a cd, eating ,having sex , reading newspapers and books or watching freakin tv! ie they are doing everything except paying attention! if you learn to be aware of your enviroment after a while its automatic...you dont even realize you are doing it until your BS alarm goes off and you find yourself watching a threat unfold. people are taught to be unaware..."god is watching over you, the police are protecting you, the military is protecting you," etc...thanks but i will take responsability for watching my own ass...

Paying attention is NOT paranoia...it is common sense.

...well, ASIDE from the last little part about automobile accidents...
I believe that, yeah, I might have stayed...but I'd try to keep the guy in my peripherial vision, at least, by moving a bit.
Things tend to escalate in a somewhat perdictable manner. Push, shove, fistfight.
This isn't always the case, but it is a pretty fair estimation of maybe 80 percent of FIGHTS. Not combat. Combat is different.
This incident was indeed a bit of a freak occurance. The guy was a nut, and jumped the ladder from argument, and disengagment... to "kapow, BITCH" combat (I define combat as the area of self defense where your justified in maiming or killing the other person/people.)
In all reality...the guy might have been fine if he wasn't on the bleachers.
People do fucked up shit, and not always with a motive.

Some selected viewing;
InDecline
Bling-Bling
Bumfights I & II

and the "this skater is a jerk"
on www.fightvids.net

[OmaPlata]

I was at the beach one day, sitting on the sea wall, these BIG marine looking guys were playing football on the beach, and they kept running by this dude who was minding his own business and kicking sand in his face. He got up and yelled at them and everybody went back to what they were doing. They run by the guy again a few minutes later and kick sand all over him again (just by running by, not totally on purpose) but by the guy is pissed. He waits and they run by again a he grabs one of the guys by the ankle and trips him. Automatically the 5 biggest guys of the bunch of 12 or so surround this guy, and I dont exagerrate sizes, the dudes were big, like all were 200-260lbs and built, the other guy was 6-1 190-195 athletic, no pussy himself.
So anyway, I always heard the deal "hit the biggest guy first" so the biggest guy,a blonde bodybuilder and tan guy, gets fucking hit right on the chin by the beach guy and HARD, the blonde guy falls back, I saw his knees buckle, and sits downs holding his face,. the other guys all jump on the beach guy and he's throw guys around and taking shots, then the assholes grab him by the waist while another hits him, he gets loose and grabs another but by the arms, but proceeds to get headbutted. So they kinda all walk away, this guy is yelling at them "you guys are fucking pusseys, Ill fight you all one by one, but I cant beat 6 at once, **** you" he walks right by me bleeding, I want to give the guy a baseball bat or something but just keep to myself, meanwhile the asshole marine guys walk by me, I was going tell them theyre pussys for ganging up, by then I might get called out one-0n-one and decided not to say anything, as they we way bigger than i thought as they got closer up.
moral of the story, I dont think ground fighting would have helped this guy, maybe some good kicks would have, but against 5 guys, I think boxing would be best

[SamuraiGuy]

^^ lol good story, but I dont see what that has to do with thee.. argument we got going ... err "discussion"

anyway... can we at least agree on my point... that kicking the guy down the stairs wasnt a fight?

[BoarSpear]

^^ lol good story, but I dont see what that has to do with thee.. argument we got going ... err "discussion"

anyway... can we at least agree on my point... that kicking the guy down the stairs wasnt a fight?

sure i will grant it was an assault if that makes you feel better...just realize you are splitting hairs to protect your comfort zone...its not like the guy attacked him with no warning for absolutley no reason ( i am not saying he was right or justified...i agree he is a sick f@#k) there was a verbal confrontation...so there was prior warning of a socially maladjusted prick ABOVE and BEHIND him which he chose to ignore....it was not imposssible to realize this could get ugly .....in fact it was evident there was a problem!...that is different than a couple of thugs waiting to jump the next unsuspecting person to enter a public bathroom for instance...no warning, no prior contact...to me the last scenario is less fight more assault...but its all semantics anyway...look at it like this...

its like calling vietnam a police action...we didnt lose a "war" but the people are just as dead no matter what you call it....

[Maidenfan]

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/ghettofight.html
Man, this shit right here pisses me off.

I concur! A bunch of black guys trying to bully some guy into doing something! I wish I could have given that asian guy a bat.... Stupid pricks! He shoulda moved his car and ran the f@%k over those assholes and straight through their stupid "x5"(wtf is an x5?)

[Screamtruth]

With all these fight videos floating around, it makes me wonder when someone is just rushing you with punches and shit like that, how do you handle that? I mean I have fought in the ring for Muay Thai matches, but honestly, since I have started Muay Thai and MMA, I have never been in a fight. Maybe I should go and train with Geoff Thompson for a while. None of these fights had anybody with a lot of skill, but I guess everything goes when it is your ass on the line.

Conceal and Carry License, that's my only answer.

[OmaPlata]

I concur! A bunch of black guys trying to bully some guy into doing something! I wish I could have given that asian guy a bat.... Stupid pricks! He shoulda moved his car and ran the f@%k over those assholes and straight through their stupid "x5"(wtf is an x5?)

-I woulda put a bullet right through that black guys mellon. But the asian guy: 1) shouldnt have even rolled his window down 2) shoulda got the hell outta there soon as the black guy came up to the side of the car, or even, never went to an area where blacks are hanging out 3) like above, ran the fuckers over with his car
I got rushed at an intersection one night for not doing anything, the guys were pissed and tried to get in my car and they would pulled my GF out too, but i punched it and got outta there, after that, the guns in the car always, I dont give a shit if i get arrested, big deal, bail me out

[beatbreeder86]

I concur! A bunch of black guys trying to bully some guy into doing something! I wish I could have given that asian guy a bat.... Stupid pricks! He shoulda moved his car and ran the f@%k over those assholes and straight through their stupid "x5"(wtf is an x5?)

LMAO wtf is a x5? its the bmw suv, but anyways i hate watching videos like these, it just enrages me and cant do anything about it

[Nick]

Seeing these videos, I think an important part of self defense is being able to fight from the clinch with elbows, knees, headbutts, etc.

[Maidenfan]

Lol, if black guys knew Krap Magas 1" bullet dodge they could just dodge... That was random but kinda funny(I think). I woulda knocked the @%@# out of those blacks and ran their mangled bodies over. Then I would pray for a redneck cop...

[BoarSpear]

some days it just doesnt pay to talk shit...

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/asswhoop.html

[OmaPlata]

some days it just doesnt pay to talk shit...

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/asswhoop.html

-all done in his socks too. Least the idiot could have moved out of the way or something, he just stood there with some guy rushing right at him