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The stupidist comment Jim Brown ever made (and this is paraphrased not exact) was after UFC I or II, when he said "I have been around tough guys all my life, growing up, playing football, and I even hung around with Ali and Mike Tyson. Both of those guys wouldn't stand a chance in the octagon." HA!!!!!!!!!! I could see if he said that after a recent UFC (I still disagree, but it's arguable)...BUT AFTER UFC I or II!!!!!!! HA!!!!!!! So Jim Brown didn't think Ali could've beaten Pat Smith or Gerard Gordeau? He didn't think Tyson could've beaten Kevin Rosier or Zane Frazier? In fact the only two fighters from UFC I or II who could've MAYBE beaten Tyson or Ali (in their primes) were Shamrock and Gracie. Jim Brown was an outstanding football player and one of the greatest athletes of all time. But when it came to fighting he didn't know his elbow from his asshole.
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I agree colonie, early ufc was were all the shitty-ryu and tae queer do people tried to fight. Boxers would've destroyed those guys but wouldn't stand a real chance against grapplers because the octagon is cloud 9 for bjj and whatever other sh!t wins in ufc. Put lewis vs rickson in a street fight and I'd put my $$$ on lewis, after all I'd be kinda hard to hold billy bob in your guard when billy-rays kicking you in the head.
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I agree Passive. Lewis would eat Rickson up and spit him out.Comment
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Keep dreaming...Comment
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Anti-grappling
Guys, (Colonie Crusher and PassiveGuy), I think you two should go get a room. You guys are MADE for each other!
You know, you talk about how the octogon was "made" for the grapplers. We train on a hard floor. We train ALL ranges and especially grappling. If you think for a minute that grappling wouldn't work against boxers, then just let me say that I'm EXTREMELY happy NOT to be training with you.
Just keep doing what you're doing. I'm sure your boxing is just fine (if you're wearing GLOVES on the street).
Meanwhile, we're training realism.
John
[Edited by Twisted up on 01-06-2001 at 11:25 AM]Comment
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LOL, this again??
Guns and knives are the best "martial art".....
Nothing else.
Let's drop the boxer vs. BJJ man now.
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Rickson Gracie is the smartest fighter aliveComment
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You're crazy!
Twisted, I never said the octagon was unrealistic. I never said that. I have seen Rickson fight before and I think Lewis could take him. Ofcourse if he took Lewis down it would be a different story, but Ricksons takedowns are not the greatest. So get off Ricksons nuts. I do think, however, that Coleman and Randlemen could take Lewis. But, not Rickson.
[Edited by The Colonie Crusher on 01-06-2001 at 01:39 PM]Comment
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I do judo and wrestling so I do know some about grappling... It's just not as easy as you may picture it in your mind to double leg a big guy like lewis. I also agree that physically strong grapplers like Coleman would beat Lewis. Rickson just isn't there physically. I just don't see a long drawn out ground "chess match" type fight happining on the street, If you get someone in your guard yer gonna get hit in the head before you pull off that picture perfect triangle choke.
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brown has made many dumb comments, but jeff blatnick is by far the worse of the two!Comment
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"Talk to ME! Talk to ME!"Comment
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I don't understand how you can think that these wrestlers like Coleman can take Tyson or Lewis and at the same time think that Rickson can't. I'm sure Rickson can beat Coleman.Comment
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The stupidist comment Jim Brown ever made was "SAy, fool da grazie be like da badest mo fo like in diz mo fo place. Da man can't hold him back. He be havin some black in him. Jeff, what it is?"Comment
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Joshbcool,
Now biggotry like that ought not to be on this board, doncha think?
actually, you might be trying to deal with your fantasies about sleeping with a black male.
Is that the case, Joshbcool?
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