Cung Le is a God among men.

[danfaggella]

So it was legal in Kimura's time, there we go.

Its a shame that its gone, it has some decent practical application.

[Tant01]

Back in my day...

So it was legal in Kimura's time, there we go.

Its a shame that its gone, it has some decent practical application.

It was legal in MY time! Am I old or what? Yeah, I really liked that throw. I should see if the BJJ guys up here like it...?

[nutter]

Your opinion is an uneducated guess...

Try this on for size>>

San shou (散手) or Sanda (散打) is a modern Chinese martial art and a self-defense system. It is composed of various aspects of traditional fighting styles in China. The two main styles that san shou is composed of is kickboxing and shuai jiao, a Chinese form of wrestling. San shou tournaments are one of the two sport wushu disciplines recognized by the International Wushu Federation[1].

San shou was developed by the Chinese Army in the 1960s, which was a decision of the Chinese government. Various traditional styles as well as old-style lei tai fighting competitions were studied, and choices made from these were combined with modern insights to create san shou. One can see san shou as a synthesis of traditional Chinese kungfu fighting techniques into a more amorphous system. The emphasis of san shou is on realistic fighting ability, and not the ability to perform elaborate forms.

As an unarmed self-defense system, san shou includes throws, locks, chokes, kicks, punches. As a sport, san shou is practiced in tournaments. Various techniques from the self-defense form of san shou are not allowed during these tournaments, like elbow hits, chokes and arm locks. Furthermore, it is possible to defeat the opponent by moving him outside the ring. Fighters are only allowed to clinch for a short few seconds. If the clinch is not broken by the fighters and if neither succeeds in throwing his opponent within the time limit, the referee will break the clinch.

Some well-known San shou fighters include the IKF champion Cung Le, Rudi Ott, and Marvin Perry.

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=San+shou&curtab=2222_1&linktext=san%20shou

Seems like a well MIXED ART to me

San Shou = MMA.... haha you make me laugh. You can quote pro-Chinese sources who go on about how san shou is based on "traditional" wushu etc, but the truth is and will always be that it is influenced by Muay Thai and continues to resembles Muay Thai far more than it does the traditional styles. You don't need to look it up on "answers.com" or Wikipedia to realise that, just watch it.

[kuk sool won]

well then by your definition any form that participates in the use of standing techniques including the use of all limbs is muay thai and any art that has been influenced whatsoever is MMA - So basically any art is either MMA or Muay Thai? Don't be daft.

[Tant01]

Or Judo? Atemiwaza? Jujutsu? No?

San Shou = MMA.... haha you make me laugh. ...san shou.... is influenced by Muay Thai and continues to resembles Muay Thai far more than it does the traditional styles. ..., just watch it.

Yes, you are right, I don't know anything about Muay Thai or San Shou...


Are we done now?

[danfaggella]

I would like to know what makes the striking intrinsically CMA and not just kickboxing, I think the gloves make it resemble MT a whole lot, and I wish I could spot where it actually looks like its based in CMA, I know it is mainly based in these styles but it does in fact look a lot like kickboxing with takedowns.

[nutter]

Yes, you are right, I don't know anything about Muay Thai or San Shou...

Well you said it mate. We should all face up to our limitations, I commend your honesty.

[Tant01]

Close

Well you said it mate. We should all face up to our limitations, I commend your honesty.

you forgot this little detail when you quoted my post...






I am not your "mate"... Chump!

[nutter]

Are you this rude to everyone who doesn't kowtow to your huge ego?

[Tant01]

Educational therapy...

Are you this rude to everyone who doesn't kowtow to your huge ego?

No, sometimes I get MEAN...

If you want civil discussion all you need to do is demonstrate some intelligence.

In the meantime why don't you type your silly ass over to Bullshido...They love guys like you...

[kuk sool won]

Tant could you tell me whats wrong with addressing people as mate? Im not sure if you have this massive stereotypical view about social variation through language change but you should respect the way people speak, sometimes its seemingly unavoidable to speak a certain way...

[JkD187]

Tant could you tell me whats wrong with addressing people as mate? Im not sure if you have this massive stereotypical view about social variation through language change but you should respect the way people speak, sometimes its seemingly unavoidable to speak a certain way...

Ello Mate....you have a small wanker!

[nutter]

Ello Mate....you have a small wanker!

You don't actually know the usage of the word wanker do you?

[Tant01]

Not a thing...

Tant could you tell me whats wrong with addressing people as mate? Im not sure if you have this massive stereotypical view about social variation through language change but you should respect the way people speak, sometimes its seemingly unavoidable to speak a certain way...

Nothing at all as long as you're on friendly terms with the chap you're speaking (typing) with.

I have had English gentlemen call me "mate" on many occasions and didn't throw it back in their face. Actually a few of them were Australian SF... Same idea. I must admit I had trouble the first time one tried to bum a fag....??? LOL

[nutter]

Look mate, wots with name dropping the Aussie SAS and picking silly things like lingo to pick arguments on? You seem like a guy who needs external validation so you keep talking it up big so you can be the biggest fish in the small pond of the internet. Quit the ego agenda mate.