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  • #31
    Originally posted by Shoot View Post
    I agree that WWII combatives “work.” I also agree with the Fairbairn/Applegate/Sykes school of thought on using a few simple techniques that can be applied in all sorts of situations. The problem with these techniques is the same as their purpose–they are designed and do work in real, life or death combat. It is important to learn a lessor degree of force, such as open palm boxing skills and BJJ for situations where less than lethal force should be used. Also, even Applegate and Fairbairn espoused the value of Jiu-jitsu. The problem they had with JJ was that it takes too long to learn and can be overcome by the use of lethal blows. Even pre-WWII Judo/Jiu-jitsu recognized this. You’ll notice that Atemi Waza are very similar to WWII combatives. So, this is all to say that you should learn how to roll around on the ground. You can visualize using Atemi Waza when you roll for the time when you might need it. Obviously, you can’t practice Atemi Waza.
    bjj can't just be OVERCOME by lethal blows. The grappler who's experience on the ground is ALWAYS in a better position to use the weapon or gouge eyes or to attack the groin while on the ground.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by 7r14ngL3Ch0k3 View Post
      Doesnt' BJJ's takedowns consist of most of the takedowns in wrestling and Judo? I want to do BJJ or GJJ
      Yes, because bjj is a judo hybrid.

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      • #33
        do you mean best or most dangerous? because if you mean most dangerous that would definitely have to be Ken Shamrock.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi View Post
          do you mean best or most dangerous? because if you mean most dangerous that would definitely have to be Ken Shamrock.
          And why is that because he gets nearly pounded into a living death every time he steps into the ring with a top 10 fighter?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by JkD187 View Post
            And why is that because he gets nearly pounded into a living death every time he steps into the ring with a top 10 fighter?
            Well it's his "title."

            Ken Shamrock-World's Dangerous Man...c'mon you have to have heard that at some point.

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            • #36
              I heard that krav maga, the Israeli army martial art form, teaches alot of real life self defense techniques. Has anyone checked out any schools? What are your takes?

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              • #37
                Fedor is the man as is Crocop, Liddell, Hughes, Silva, etc etc etc

                The debate gets a little tedious sometimes....but Fedor is still the man.

                Ken Shamrock would have to be "The Worlds Most Boring Fighter" wouldn't he??

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                • #38
                  That Defendu twit hasn't been back yet.....shame.

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                  • #39
                    Fedor is awesome, but he hasnt fought at all this year and only twice in 2005. But he will destroy Coleman at Real Deal this october.

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                    • #40
                      lol guys=)

                      Randy Couture and Royce Gracie coz of their good attitudes and being patient in the fight....also Dan Severn=)

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                      • #41
                        Tito!!!!!!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by akio123 View Post
                          Randy Couture and Royce Gracie coz of their good attitudes and being patient in the fight....also Dan Severn=)
                          Are you trying to insinuate that Randy is not a top notch fighter? If you are, you must be outa your mind. Dan severn is pretty damn good of a fighter for his age, and for the stuff he learned late in life. He did beat Forrest Griffin and a bunch of other top names.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by treelizard View Post
                            Tito!!!!!!
                            Tito is not even close to being the best. He would get KTFO by Chuck, defeated or possibly KO/TKO'd or submitted by Babalu. And Forrest Griffin almost beat him too. Wanderlei Silva would beat Tito, no doubt in my mind. Shogun, Arona, Minotoro and Overeem would wipe the floor with Ortiz, for sure, if you disagree then youre wrong. Its seems like Ortiz just takes people down, cant even pass guard, and elbows the Ok fighters he's fought from within their guard.

                            His ground and pound isnt even great, he does it with elbows! And elbows are easy and the only damage they really do is cause cuts and make it seem like the fighter on bottom is getting really hurt. Now, elbows from mount, side mount, or even half guard are great. But elbows from within guard = stalling and lay and pray. Plus, Fedor and Mirko dont need to use elbows.
                            Last edited by 7r14ngL3Ch0k3; 10-15-2006, 12:40 PM.

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                            • #44
                              i would love to see liddell fight bas rutten....now that .....that would be one of the all time best .......i think bas is probably the all time best MMA .........or at least the most popular.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by J-Luck View Post
                                Are you trying to insinuate that Randy is not a top notch fighter? If you are, you must be outa your mind. Dan severn is pretty damn good of a fighter for his age, and for the stuff he learned late in life. He did beat Forrest Griffin and a bunch of other top names.
                                Severn and FOrrest faught? When where why? Isnt Dan way bigger? who won

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