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Alright everyone, SIT DOWN, and BRACE yourselves, .....
......................Alrighty then, sorry but safety first, i didnt want anyone getting hurt when they passed out..... BJJ is totally the way to go dude, you are young and your fights shouldnt be that serious. Those you cant outrun (your first option) you will probably win since most kids cant punch worth crap anyway...or... learn to wrestle.
OH, MY HEART! THIS IS THE BIG ONE!! I'M A GONNER! I need those nitro glycerin pills
I actually put my son into a BJJ academy when he was 16! He liked it but didn't stick with it...
lol... I'd say U.S. armed forces... really... ummm... marines... army lol. They teach you to use firearms and to be proficient with them. If you can become a grand master able to hit an attacker with a full clip... you truley have found the easiest martial art.
Full clip (or magazine) is white belt. One shot at 1000 meters is grandmaster....
Go take some self-defense classes. Most martial arts are taught in a sportive manner and not a lot of emphasis is placed on self-defense specifically. There will be self-defense segments to the class, but the class isn't usually 100% self-defense oriented.
Huge sweep blocks, upper blocks, etc like in karate will get you knocked out.
If there is not a self-defense school near you try muay thai or western boxing. Anything that emphasizes a "shell" type defense where you stay as close and efficient as possible. These techniques can be learned quickly and then it's just a matter of practice, drilling, and sparring.
I'd also work in some ground work, take at least 3 or 4 months of BJJ. That way you're at least prepared in case things go to the ground. At the very least you should know how to stand up properly without catching a boot to the face.
And it's not how many techniques you know, it's all about having 1-3 techniques per position/situation that you're amazing at, are right for your body type and style and that you've drilled into your muscle memory. You should be able to do them in your sleep. You should also be comfortable moving from position to position safely so that you're not caught off guard if a technique doesn't work out.
Seriously Murray that is insulting and completely not true. Sportive fighting may not emphisize self-defense, but the skills you learn from fighting real opponents who are fighting back is very valid, and time and time again traditional techniques are shown as innefective in one-on-one figthing. I'm not just talking about the eye gouges and groin strikes that you cant do in competition, im talking about thier stances, striking, concepts, ect... I respect most martial arts, not just sportive ones. I beleive that BJJ and Muay Thai (common sportive styles) are extreemly valid and proven, and stating that they are not martial arts or that they take no time to learn is rediculous. People devote thier lives to those arts, just like any other traditional arts. What are you taking that makes you insult us like that? Why don't you go out and kick Chuck Liddel's ass, or Genki Sudo's ass, or Carlow Newton's ass? These styles may not EMPHISIZE street fighitng philosophy and knife attack defence and such (most of the time), but places that don't train for such things aren't lying and saying they are. They will tell you they train in a sportive martial art, and that the skills can in fact transfer to street situations. The effectiveness of technique and training method of these styles compared to many others is proven. When the traditional man looses a figth to a Thai fighter, he may say that if it was a REAL STREET FIGHT, the outcome would hav ebeen different, but if the traditional man never landed a solid blow, i consider it highly doubtful he would have been able to impliment his "deadly" technique that aren't allowed in the ring.
Systems that require zero skill and which you will have mastered in a couple of months:
MMA
Muay Thai
Boxing
Kickboxing
Any Grappling system
All these are sports and NOT MARTIAL ARTS! They are very basic in how they approach REAL COMBAT.
Do they teach you how to fight IN THE STREET?
Answer - NO!
And that is why I will call you a dumbass yet again.
All your thoughts are flawed and ignorant. They take a few months to master? Let me see you master any one of those arts in a "few months".
Systems that require zero skill and which you will have mastered in a couple of months:
MMA
Muay Thai
Boxing
Kickboxing
Any Grappling system
You can't master any of those arts in a couple of months, Andy. Try it yourself. Go to your nearest boxing gym. Train for 6 months, find your weight class and arrange for a smoker bout.
Still not convinced? fight a professional, even at a lighter weight class .
Originally posted by Andy Murray
All these are sports and NOT MARTIAL ARTS! They are very basic in how they approach REAL COMBAT.!
Are you saying that REAL COMBAT shouldn't emphasize the basics? In REAL FIGHTS, even the ones that I get laughed at by some of the more danger-experienced folks here, I get tunnel vision and can only seem to focus on a 3-5 foot radius around me. Its called adrenal dump. You're not going to be able to pull off your 360 degree jump spin kick or your flip over the head ninja shoulder throw.
knees, elbows and punches are fine. Headbut, stomp, spit in between. You may want to have a weapon handy too.
Originally posted by Andy Murray
Do they teach you how to fight IN THE STREET?
Answer - NO!
yeah, because only fancy moves are street effective... (a JUBAJI trademark).
Systems that require zero skill and which you will have mastered in a couple of months:
MMA
Muay Thai
Boxing
Kickboxing
Any Grappling system
All these are sports and NOT MARTIAL ARTS! They are very basic in how they approach REAL COMBAT.
Do they teach you how to fight IN THE STREET?
Answer - NO!
And what amazing top-secret deadly art is it that you have used to kick the crap out of "MMAMuay ThaiBoxingKickboxingAny Grappling system"
on 'da street' champ? Which of the above have you mastered in "a couple of months" and then abandoned as useless? When are you going to have all that lead paint removed from your house?
How so? Do you have proof to show that the post I made is incorrect?
I dont actually think I need proof to show you that you cannot master any of the list of "sports" that you mentioned in three months. I think it is generally accepted by anyone who knows anything about any combat sport that this is not true.
I am assuming that you know nothing about any of them.
I challenge you to prove me wrong (you made the stupid claim) by doing one of the following:
1) training for three months in BJJ and then trying to fight a BJJ black belt or above (after all you will have mastered it right ).
2) training in boxing for three months and then competing in a professional bout.
3) training for three months in MT and competing in a professional MT bout.
4) training in MMA for three months and then competing in an MMA bout.
or maybe you could just show me a world champoin in any of these sports who has three months training.
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