what is the most important mma skill to have if you could only pick one

[medic06]

LMAO you tried to answer my question but missed the whole point...

Thanks BlueWave for actually answering it.

With that said, Clinch to the fucking max, look at all the other options, good armbars, a goodshot, good hands...

Clearly the clinch has got to be the best for this thing as its not just one or a few techniques, shot, armlocks, leg locks...

Its a whole range of fighting..

Striking, Clinch, and Ground fighting.... a whole range... jeez..

It's so blatantly obvious that this is what you need for MMA, you get all the striking from the clinch... and you get all the throws, trips, submissions, etc from the clinch as bonus.

The shot may be a good technique, but its not the shot, the single leg, high crotch, sprawl, etc... its just the shot in this poll....

IMO the clinch shouldnt even be in a poll like this.. it should be in a poll like.. whats the best base "clinch work (standing grappling basically) ? ground grappling? or striking?"

Something like.. "knees from the clinch" fits this poll.

By George I think he's got it!!!!! I concur my good man.

Oh, Jubaji, how long do you need to put on a choke to kill them??? I may be wrong. . . .

[medic06]

a double for you Bamsan!!!!!!

[SamuraiGuy]

SamuraiGay, it's not my fault you write like a retarded 7 year old. You are truly clueless SamuraiGay. The fact that you think you can escape a RNC by just turning around proves you are not a true fighter. Now f'uck off back to your remedial homework kid.

I write like a retarded 7 year old?

First of all, I would imagine most 7 year olds dont write that well in the first place, but a mentally challenged one... I doubt they write at all...

And read my other post in the actual thread where I owned your "RNC" by turning into it...

lol proves im not a true fighter, I don't need to go around "proving" this, because to tell you the truth, I'm not.. I havent fought MMA yet, I've maybe been in 3 fights, the last one being a good 3 years ago when I was like 15...

My only "fighting" I guess comes from the MMA sparring I do...

So no I'm not a fighter, does that mean I cant kick your ass when you dont even understand hooks.... go practice your "sleeper" you bitch, your only calling it a RNC because you heard Mike Goldberg say it on UFN..

I'm not a fighter, I'm a lover, a seven year old retarded lover who can still get your mother.

[jubaji]

That's my whole point you moronic, retarded pathetic fucking piece of shit. Go f'uck your mother again you fucking inbred c'unt.

Maybe you shouldn't post during your 'special time' of the month. It seems to be making you irritable. Nothing wrong with that, just lookin' out for your best interests.

[jubaji]

The mebers of this forum are either middle aged gun nuts or retarded kids.

Which kind of "meber" are you, champ?

[jubaji]

Oh, Jubaji, how long do you need to put on a choke to kill them??? I may be wrong. . . .

It seems reasonable to me that not every single human is gonna expire on exactly the same schedule (barring extreme cases like lopping off a head). I wouldn't bet any of my money on someone who has been choked out for even two minutes making it to dinner, and I would sure bet my money that someone choked out for five minutes or more definately won't!

Strikes me as a strange thing to argue over anyway.

[jubaji]

Maybe you should aim to be something more in life than the defend.net bitch. Fucking failure.

Good idea. If you go set an example and come back in ten years (and STFU 'till then) I'll take your advice. Now hop to it, boy!

[jubaji]

I've seen the way you handle the trolls on here jujbji you wonderful person, Responding to all the troll posts and giving them exactly what they want. Brilliant gentleman. Trolling this forum must be easy with great people like you taking the bait each and every time. Hugs!

Are you saying I'm giving you exactly what you want, troll-boy? You're welcome.

[SamuraiGuy]

Without hooks/body control you can just turn into a RNC, you fucking douche bag, jesus.

I am not criticising chokes, and that is a way you can get out of them without a body control. This forum isnt for people obsessed with weapons, this particular sub-forum is for MMA/BJJ competition and questions, no weapons at all, and certainly not holding chokes until people die, so why are you arguing about that?

Oh, and if youd really like to know where I train, I'll let you know.

https://www.joslinskarate.com

Thats where I train MMA, I realize it says Karate in the website, and they do teach Karate there... I guess my instructor would be Jeff? I would say my instructors would be almost everyone there, anyone I can learn something from, certainly a Alliance Jiu Jitsu Black Belt would be able to teach me what a Guillotine and a RNC is.... or possibly the brown belt who tapped me out repeatedly for 8 minutes yesterday...

Thats where I have trained MMA. Now where do you train? I'm gonna guess nowhere land.

[medic06]

It seems reasonable to me that not every single human is gonna expire on exactly the same schedule (barring extreme cases like lopping off a head). I wouldn't bet any of my money on someone who has been choked out for even two minutes making it to dinner, and I would sure bet my money that someone choked out for five minutes or more definately won't!

Strikes me as a strange thing to argue over anyway.

Well, that's what happens when you learn everything you need to know in like, 5 years of training. Nope, the best estimate I could find was 3-5 minutes, but of course there is really only one way to find out. . . . ..

[jubaji]

Well, that's what happens when you learn everything you need to know in like, 5 years of training. Nope, the best estimate I could find was 3-5 minutes, but of course there is really only one way to find out. . . . ..

Good point.

Bam would make an excellent test subject, as no one would miss him.

[jubaji]

so, nothing new then?

I literally pissed myself

I'm guessing you do that alot.

[SamuraiGuy]

Uhh, guy...

First of all you never posted where you train.... I thought I asked for that.

A RNC doesnt mean a "RNC with hooks and body control"...

Douchebag, a RNC is just that, the RNC is the actual chokehold. And the guillotine doesnt mean after you have pulled gaurd. What about a standing Guillotine, or do all your fights start on the ground.

Oh, and I really dont need to respond to the McDojo claims, but I will anyway.

http://www.bjj.org/a/people/joslin-jeff.html

Thats one source for the Black Belt under Jacare. (What are you gonna call the alliance school a McDojo now too).

Heres proof of the MMA record...

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterid=6606

And the two losses were bullshit, one was a complete bullshit decision, the other one the guy verbally tapped out to strikes, and two minutes later was allowed to restart the fight. Fitch also committed illegal fouls, such as headbutts, and purposely spitting out his mouthgaurd, then claiming it wasnt his to get a break.

Fitch also just plain old lost the fight.

So you still havent told me where you train.

[Sagacious Lu]

*edit* ^^^I'm amazed, it's a troll that admits to being a troll.

Good point.

Bam would make an excellent test subject, as no one would miss him.

Actually I think he's already been used as a test subject... that would explain how he got this way

[SamuraiGuy]

Honestly your just a big troll... you take bits and pieces of shit.

I notice you didnt include any of the boxing, wrestling, or bjj credentials in your post.

Anyway you still havent posted where you train, I doubt you train at all.

All you do is go on about your 3 years of "submission grappling" which really means (we saw some UFC tapes and like to roll around with each other), because we are too big of a pussies to take BJJ, Judo, or wrestling, and learn it the right way.

Your 3 years of submission grappling would sure prove the BJJ Blackbelt the inferior grappler, nevermind the fact that KO'd before it even got to the ground.

Edit; the fact that you would spend your time doing that is just sad. I take the time to own fools like you while doing other more productive things on the computer.