Matt Hughs or Royce Gracie

[J-Luck]

Trigg sucks , yes, he got arm barred in the ADCC in like 30 seconds, he sucks on the ground. He might be a blue belt in BJJ at best

Hughes is maybe a "better" grappler than Royce? LMAO, ok end of discussion, you should put down the crack pipe and step back away from the computer, and then have Boarspear pull your head out of your ass for you. Yes Hughes has grappled his whole life with the best grapplers in the world, LOL, and we saw what happened when he did meet a real grappler, aka Penn, he looked like a white belt. He sucks. I give him a chance however, maybe 5-1 to win by decision

Ok, ok... I know it was posted a while ago, but I gotta pick up where I left off. First... If the losing in the premier submission grappling championship of the world means you suck... then I guess all but one person in each weight class sucks... good logic... damn you're smart.

Second... yes... he is a better grappler... I actually think Boarspear would agree... I'm not sure what you were getting at. He was unused to BJJ at the time he fought Penn, didn't mean he was an inferior grappler... submissions are only a part of grappling... important... yes... in and of themselves they are useless. I would say with complete confidence that there are significantly better grapplers in the NCAA champs than in the BJJ world champs... and then even more so in the olympics. I would say he is definitly a superior grappler to both Penn and Gracie. He has all of the other tools, which is why his sub. grappling game has improved exponentially... so you're comparison is irrelevant.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Whoa

I would say with complete confidence that there are significantly better grapplers in the NCAA champs than in the BJJ world champs... and then even more so in the olympics.

Alright, if a NCAA wrestling champion were to GRAPPLE(not wrestle) with a BJJ world champion(there's many from several tournements), the WRESTLER would get easily submitted even if that wrestler had a year of BJJ training. Grappling is not wrestling......wrestling is a part of it, but BJJ makes up for a greater percentage of it.

[jubaji]

Alright, if a NCAA wrestling champion were to GRAPPLE(not wrestle) with a BJJ world champion(there's many from several tournements), the WRESTLER would get easily submitted even if that wrestler had a year of BJJ training. .

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Well, that wasn't too stupid, was it?






Oh wait, yes it was.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Its true though.

[jubaji]

oops, too late

Its true though.

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Stop making yourself look stupid, kid.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Aside from that, i got a question.............

When you purchase a PPV, can you view it multiple times in a 10 hour(for example) period? Or can you only view it once?

[jubaji]

But do you agree with incredibly stupid post #112?

[jubaji]

its not brain surgery

" if a NCAA wrestling champion were to GRAPPLE(not wrestle) with a BJJ world champion(there's many from several tournements), the WRESTLER would get easily submitted even if that wrestler had a year of BJJ training. "



is just plain stupid

[Tant01]

You pay per view

Aside from that, i got a question.............

When you purchase a PPV, can you view it multiple times in a 10 hour(for example) period? Or can you only view it once?

It's PAY PER VIEW.....



"Dee Dee Dee." Carlos Mencia

[knifethrower]

Aside from that, i got a question.............

Aside from what?.....looking stupid?...............

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

It's PAY PER VIEW.....



"Dee Dee Dee." Carlos Mencia

lmao, actually i found out that you can view a PPV more than once in a 24 hour period, besides if you have DVR or TIVO you can record it. Im just gonna record it on VCR but ill only really need to see it once.

[J-Luck]

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I don't think it would be easy, no. But I do think that if a great wrestler and a great BJJ guy in the same weight class were to wrestle for submission as in the UFC, the edge would go to the BJJ guy every time. Or are you referring to the lack of any real difference between grappling and wrestling?

I read your previous post and am responding to both. Though I respect all your posts(and im sure you know that already) I'm going to disagree here. I'm not sure why you were able to submit them, but I belive it was a fluke. I (with only 2 years high school wrestlin experience already do well in my BJJ class(though i dont go very often) I've already submitted people there for months... I have no prior submission experience. I think takedowns and slams are far more important than submissions, especially on hard surfaces... where they are exponentially more important, and being on your back is a seveer disadvantage. But, if we are speaking specifically grappling on a mat... I still have to go with the wrestler, a wrestler most likely will not gas out fist as in your experience, much more so the other way around. I find the BJJ guys get tossed around, if not beaten by submission(because of the wrestlers lack of). I find the NCAA and especially the olympics to be far more prestigious than the bjj world tournament... though I would put AbuDhabi up there with those two.

[J-Luck]

Also, a wrestler with limited BJJ and a BJJ practicioner with limited wrestling ... I think most definitly the wrestler will come out on top.

[jigmastermatt]

So who won?

[BoarSpear]

Diego just won by decision but the crowds PISSED!!!! Matt and the other dude, cant recall his name, aint fought yet.