The best position in a street fight...

[PassiveGuy]

IMHO is the Muay Thai clinch. Firstly, this is a safe position that you can get in and out of quickly(if for instance you are in a multi opponent fight you can release and fight stand-up if bubba-ray's friend tries to break a beer bottle on your head). Also you can deliver a wide wariety of stikes, throws, and locks. Finally, in the clinch your opponent has no idea how to fight there so you can take full advantage of him. Keep in mind that you'll need to distract him before you clinch up with a 1-2 or a low round-house.


KEEP THE FORUM MMA!!!!!

[bobby_steeles]

i have to admit that your choice is a pretty good one, but i would have to diagree and go with knee on the stomach while raining down punches on poor bubba ray.

[Twisted up]

positions

I also like both positions.

When standing, underhooks or neck wrestling

On the ground, knee on chest definitely!

John

[Underdog]

IMHO, the safest position is the head behind back clinch; if the opponent is a "swinger" type it can be obtained with relative ease, from then, he cannot absolutely strike you; you are pretty much shielded by him (vs other opps) and you can rain blows to the neck and buttbone (painful!), also, you can stomp behind the knee and acquire the backmount.

[PassiveGuy]

Underdog: what does the position your describing look like??? Where do you put your hands, around his neck in a choke?


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[Ian The Machine Freeman]

Best possision on the street

Muay Thai Clinch : We are talking street fight here. Too close, you'll get your face bit off. Many an ear or a nose has been lost in a streetfight clinch.

Knee on stomache : Good posission, but we have to be careful his pals are not going to take a cheap shot when your down on one knee.

Head behind back clinch : Perfect as long as you have him in a rear choke and your back against a wall.

[Chad W. Getz]

Well, I don't know about a "best" position...how about a good one.

Underdog, are you talking about having his back with a bear hug around his chest/upper abs almost ready for a Greco throw?

I think the clinch is a good position, maybe not just the MT clinch, but a hybrid with Greco and attatched and unattatched strikes mixed in.

[dan downard]

The best position I have found was 50 feet away and heading for my car.

[Chad W. Getz]

How about driving back with the car...

[DIRE WOLF]

I Agree 100%

[Underdog]

Chad has got it. The clinch I referred is the one where you slip behind your opponent, holding your head tight against the center of his back, gripping his waist with a bear hug. Beware that this is a transitional clinch; if you stay there doing nothing, the opp will mount a counteroffensive. Always be aggressive. Also, from this clinch is a simple matter to switch to a rear naked:

Usually when you grab your opp in a bear hug from behind, he instinctively will try to open your grip; the moment you will get gripped by his hand over ONE of you arms, slide the one that's not gripped over his neck: now 100% of the times he will release whatever he's doing to your arms to grab the arm that's choking him. Swiftly complete the rear naked with the other arm.

In a fight nothing is guarantee; it is really a matter of setups; if the opp will succed in releasing the grip on his neck, he'll spin around and you will find yourself entangled in a greco or thai clinch.

[sccr06]

I think the clinch is kind of an underrated position. In fact, you don't often hear folks even talk about it as a "position". I think the CouturevRandleman fight was the fight time I heard it mentioned at a UFC as a position to work from.

Doesn't Mario Sperry's tape sets go into fighting fromt he clinch in detail?

[Underdog]

My experience is that when TWO people are fighting, and they are hatred, no one step backward, they commit themselves in the act of HITTING, and that involves a pushing, advancing movement. After the first hits are exchanged, the distance is shortened, and, usually the istinct is to hold (control) someone with one hand while hitting with the other (usually the strong hand).

This, call whatever you want, is a clinch. It's a fact of life and it's the distance where EVERY fight revolves.

I'm not so sold on the theory of "90% fights ends on the ground" but EVERY fight involves a clinch.

Now, said that, the smart man tries to maximize his game.
I'm fanatical about greco-clinching and greco-pummelling; I'd gone so far to use it to warm-up in my Gym.

But I've noted also that while more or less everyone can defend himself in a classical clinch, the head-behind clinch is disconcerting for most people, and it's the safer position you can obtain during standup.

Little hint: when you are trying to get the position LOOK UP! this way it's more difficult to get guillotined.

[Bau13]

Best position = where you can see everything around you
to defend yourself and eventually run if you have to..

[festiva]

in the muay thai clinch iwould keep my head down..solve a lot of biting issues..for the head behind back position i dont go upstairs and try for a choke because he'll shift his hips and escape or throw me...because and this is in my opinion a great law of fighting "in any given exchange when standing whoever's hips are proportionally lowest will win the exchange " this applies to boxing also...instead i go for the takedown..then kick him in the head..i dont pound him from the head behind back position either unless ive trapped him against a wall....