Mixed Martial Arts, One of the oldest forms of fighting.

[knifethrower]

Thank you very much.

anytime.........

[WuChi]

A amjorly important part of all this is missing. It takes courage to step up to the challenges of say, mma etc. And when you do this you learn to deal with your emotions, and channel anger and fear. This is an important part of any martial artist. Its good to have skills but what good are they if you cant use them because you freeze etc. As for the "current curriculum of mma", I dont think that exists, I compete in MMa but train is various systems, Im still a Martial artist. I do MT, Ninjitsu and ju-jitsu. I go to an MMa class, but that is Vale Tudo, which is a form of fighting system as well, not just a sport. The MMa scene is like K1, you train how you want, and whatever your best at and compete under a set of rules. Fighting with rules can never be real fighting, but it is a vital substitute for people who want to be real martial warriors or artists. In the modern day, other than in the army you are unlikely to find a war. The Soldier is a warrior, because of what he has to deal with. respect

[WuChi]

If we were all scientists of our art, we would have no trouble in explaining ourselves. All martial arts have some things in common. They dont physically exist, they require humans to perform them and they all concern human nature, which includes war. They are not all so different, just the outlook of the student. Some will understand, and some never will.

[Uke]

I have not glossed over your points at all, Uke. I've blown them apart.

ROFLLLLLLLL. Mike if you believe that you've blown any one of my points apart then you really are worse off than we've all thought. I've not only written posts that you have COMPLETELY not addressed, but you've even done it to other forum members lately and THEY have recently called you out on that new practice of yours.

Point in a nutshell:

Go to any reputable self defense school and present Mike Brewer's arguments and be prepared to be laughed at consistently. Mike is NOT a bad guy, but he views himself as an authority which he isn't. He even talks with authority about subjects that he admits that he knows little to nothing about.

I can put up several posts on this topic alone that you'll notice that Brewer NEVER responded to. Yet, he feels he "blew" apart facts and arguments with his own opinions that are only based on his other opinions. When was this? Put up the posts!!! I've re-posted several of the points that you run for cover from. What Mike Brewer "feels" that MMA could accomplish is pure speculation because MMA has not to date done ANY of the things Brewer suggests that they "might" be able to do.

We(me, Boarspear and IPON) have been speaking from points of fact and history. If Mike wants to put on a cape and believe that he's all things martial arts, let him. But nobody but kids on this forum would believe that nonsense.

If your ideas and methods are so revolutionary Mike, why not open a school and get rich? MMA makes quite a buck for instructors because it provides a competition based environment for them to safely wrestle and kickbox. Now that you've come up with a new, less sportive version of MMA that addresses street realities, you could be rich! Why not collect the money on your ideas? You and I both know why. Not even the better more reputable MMA advocates are silly enough to suggest what you're suggesting. There are other SD schools in your area that are thriving because of the methods and philosophy that I have been writing about. There's not one reputable school nationwide claiming what you're claiming.

Combat is a method that should not be limited to any race, age, gender, or body type. Once it is, its not practical. MMA can only be successfully used by men who are professional athletes with conditioning that surpasses their opponents. Women, children and senior citizens cannot use MMA as self defense. Smaller men cannot use MMA to win against bigger, stronger skilled men. Most cannot defend against a skilled(and I stress skilled not some clumsy drunk guy swinging a butter knife) weapon attack using MMA. Weapons do not exist in the MMA world, which means reality doesn't.

Its really bizarre that you'd even argue these points. The more you feel attacked, the more you seem to double talk facts that you've previously agreed with. You're all over the place. First you claim that you're all about weapon defense and mass attacks, but then you claim that MMA brings team spirit and mental toughness that SD doesn't? Bro, what the hell are you talking about?

You are completely arguing points that aren't in contention in an effort to seem like you're holding your ground.

Either you're doing this to be a ball buster, or we're all now seeing Mike Brewer for who he truly is. Its one or the other.

[jubaji]

MMA can only be successfully used by men who are professional athletes with conditioning that surpasses their opponents.

Oh what a surprise, pUke broadcasting his insecurities yet again...

[knifethrower]

Oh what a surprise, pUke broadcasting his insecurities yet again...

Weak but, good try

[jubaji]

I'll keep on tryin'

[Tom Yum]

Jubaji and knifethrower are like long lost brothers, you know, like Van Damme in Double Impact....

[Tom Yum]

Point in a nutshell:

Go to any reputable self defense school and present Mike Brewer's arguments and be prepared to be laughed at consistently. Mike is NOT a bad guy, but he views himself as an authority which he isn't. He even talks with authority about subjects that he admits that he knows little to nothing about. .

Uke, you're just trying to open the rift between Mike and Boar.

Will you please stop?

Thanks.

I can put up several posts on this topic alone that you'll notice that Brewer NEVER responded to. Yet, he feels he "blew" apart facts and arguments with his own opinions that are only based on his other opinions. When was this? Put up the posts!!! I've re-posted several of the points that you run for cover from. What Mike Brewer "feels" that MMA could accomplish is pure speculation because MMA has not to date done ANY of the things Brewer suggests that they "might" be able to do.

We(me, Boarspear and IPON) have been speaking from points of fact and history. If Mike wants to put on a cape and believe that he's all things martial arts, let him. But nobody but kids on this forum would believe that nonsense. .

If your ideas and methods are so revolutionary Mike, why not open a school and get rich?

Now why did you ask that question, Uke?

Both Boar and Mike are pretty much against this idea of. The fact is - both Boar and Mike are concerned about teaching people how to defend themselves, allbeit different delivery methods.

MMA makes quite a buck for instructors because it provides a competition based environment for them to safely wrestle and kickbox. Now that you've come up with a new, less sportive version of MMA that addresses street realities, you could be rich!

I'd hate to be on the end of this sport guys move, especially on the concrete with the broken glass, lava and sharks with laser guns on their heads...and if I may borrow fromm jubaji, since my pee-brain (yes I said pee, not pea) can't come up with anything better at the moment.......

Either you're doing this to be a ball buster, or we're all now seeing Mike Brewer for who he truly is. Its one or the other.

Nope. You're trying to get in the way of Mike and Boar.

[knifethrower]

I'll keep on tryin'

You do that, little engine, you do that….

[knifethrower]

Jubaji and knifethrower are like long lost brothers, you know, like Van Damme in Double Impact....

oh no! man,...not Van Damme...don't do it! man! don't go there!

[Uke]

Uke, you're just trying to open the rift between Mike and Boar.

Will you please stop?

Thanks.






Now why did you ask that question, Uke?

Both Boar and Mike are pretty much against this idea of. The fact is - both Boar and Mike are concerned about teaching people how to defend themselves, allbeit different delivery methods.



I'd hate to be on the end of this sport guys move, especially on the concrete with the broken glass, lava and sharks with laser guns on their heads...and if I may borrow fromm jubaji, since my pee-brain (yes I said pee, not pea) can't come up with anything better at the moment.......






Nope. You're trying to get in the way of Mike and Boar.

Question: How do you get in the way of two grown men? I have to be honest here, this sounds a bit fruity to me. Its like you want them to reunite like aband that broke up. I'm not stoppin anything and Boar speaks for himself.

[Tom Yum]

I have to be honest here

And be dishonest elsewhere, well I am honored

this sounds a bit fruity to me..

Why? You don't hear fruit, you eat it.

Its like you want them to reunite like aband that broke up.

Daaaammnn Straight!

I like it old school!

You know.................gregorian chants.

[BoarSpear]

Uke, you're just trying to open the rift between Mike and Boar.

Will you please stop?

Thanks.






Now why did you ask that question, Uke?

Both Boar and Mike are pretty much against this idea of. The fact is - both Boar and Mike are concerned about teaching people how to defend themselves, allbeit different delivery methods.



I'd hate to be on the end of this sport guys move, especially on the concrete with the broken glass, lava and sharks with laser guns on their heads...and if I may borrow fromm jubaji, since my pee-brain (yes I said pee, not pea) can't come up with anything better at the moment.......






Nope. You're trying to get in the way of Mike and Boar.

Mike opened the rift all on his own, his continued name calling, denials and evasions are keeping the rift open just fine...add his SELECTIVE moderation skills and I'd say you have the Grand Canyon. Uke just pointed out the facts that STARTED the whole BS fest, Uke hardly created it nor does he have the ability to make it worse, or repair it.

[jubaji]

Mike opened the rift all on his own, his continued name calling, denials and evasions are keeping the rift open just fine...add his SELECTIVE moderation skills and I'd say you have the Grand Canyon. pUke just pointed out the facts that STARTED the whole BS fest, pUke hardly created it nor does he have the ability to make it worse, or repair it.

Damn, what a whiny little bitch!