Mixed Martial Arts, One of the oldest forms of fighting.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Uh dude you spent a hundred post dogging me while being jubaji's boy...now you want answers? I guess you shouldnt have sided with the idiots jabbering about things they didnt know...YOU pmed me later and BEGGED me to come back..you even said you would help get rid of Jubaji (because the MOD'S waanted too) if I'd come back...need your pm posted to refresh your memory?

At this point it's amusing to watch the experts here flounder in thier own BS.

That was a while ago. I begged you to come back? lmao.

Besides, im not the only one who wants the answers, we all do. You cant keep avoiding those questions forever. Right now, it seems youre the expert here floundering in your own BS.

[jubaji]

Uh dude you spent a hundred post dogging me while being jubaji's boy....

That's funny coming from the idiot with KOTF permanently stuck up your ass.

[Tom Yum]

All the methods that you mention Tom assume that its safe to attempt an armbar, lapel choke, key lock or guillotine. Those maneuvers are only safe to use once you've broken a man down and seek to finish him off. There are ways to perform the moves you mentioned in SD Tom, but nearly none of them involve laying on your back or sacrificing awareness by mounting and grounding and pounding. .

The point wasn't to ground and pound, although that's fine - its when you're thrown/fall/slip on the ground and someone comes down with you. You've got no choice but to grapple.

Take some advice from your boy Mike back when he wrote "Its better to assume that "He" is always "They," and "they" are always armed. Its probably the smartest thing he's ever written and if he truly believes that then he knows it should discourage anyone from attempting sporting maneuvers that don't take weapons or multiple attackers into account. Anyone with common sense isn't trying to "pull off" moves in the street. There is a logical way to engage an attack and then there is the luck of the draw pulling something off. I'm sure you could "pull off" a figure four leg lock in a fight but it would be stupid to teach your students that its a viable method of self defense because you're on the ground tied up with your opponent and you have no mobility and much less awareness.

Rickson Gracie is arguably one of the best ground grapplers in the world, and even he isn't going to successfully ground grapple and win against 2+ men. That says a lot about your odds.

I'm not advocating staying on the ground, jumping guard or even going there to get a finishing hold. I'm saying its better to be able to function on the ground when you have no choice but to fight from there.

Secondly, many of the techniques from combat sports work, because they've worked before against resisting opponents - this isn't a catch phrase, its a matter of fact. If I can land a right cross, I'm certain that the guy taking it will fall back 2 feet barring that he's a superheavyweight and then I know his heads gonna jar hard enough for me to take another action; If I can launch a knee or two into the midsection while in the clinch, I know the receiver is going to double over and faster if I hit the nuts.

Not all combat sports techniques are spinning wheel kicks, flying armbars or figure fours. They are quick, simple and repeatable techniques.

A right cross, clinch knee or single leg takedown are good techniques that are appropriate for different situations. You can learn them quick and pull them off against someone working against you. If they land, they do damage.

Granted there's alot of stuff in TMA and combatives that are not taught in MMA and that are useful, but it boils down to how much time you can/need to invest to be effective in the art.

Sure, I can take the time to learn choy lay fut and its related qinna, weapon disarms and freefighting moves, but its going to take years to be complete whereas a boxer will be able to throw really hard punches within 6 months.

[knifethrower]

LOL....................

again and again and again...

Ironically this sounds a lot like the energizer bunny commercial!

Keep on truckin’ little bunny rabbit---------

[knifethrower]

That's funny coming from the idiot with KOTF permanently stuck up your ass.

eeeuuuwww!! You and your fantasies again--------------

[jubaji]

Nope, still no good. Put some thought into it at least!

[BoarSpear]

That was a while ago. I begged you to come back? lmao.

Besides, im not the only one who wants the answers, we all do. You cant keep avoiding those questions forever. Right now, it seems youre the expert here floundering in your own BS.

how about we start with this pm from you on OCT 8th ...
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You really need to come back soon...
That is all. Do post again some time, preferably after Jubaji gets banned. The Mods are already trying to look for an excuse to get rid of him lol.
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Remember that one? There are more

As for those wanting answers...IF you weren't a troll, you GOT answers and video etc..I f you didn't get those things you were being a pain in the ass...or you never asked. Also the throws are listed already...good luck finding them among all the troll replies...I aint wasting time reposting info for people too bigmouthed and cool to listen the first time.

[knifethrower]

Nope, still no good. Put some thought into it at least!

Salt...anyone?...salt?...could ya pass the salt please?

[jubaji]

Well, I can see that Boring is starting to have an effect on you. You are becoming boring yourself.

[BoarSpear]

Salt...anyone?...salt?...could ya pass the salt please?

Salted Hamhocks.

[JustaFighter]

So Uke and Boar, what specifically are the styles/systems you two train in?

I really am curious.

[BoarSpear]

I really am curious.

But not so curious as to look it up yourself.

[knifethrower]

Salted Hamhocks.

YES!! Ooo, Ooo Bacon maybe!……..Mmmmmmm Bacon….

Well, I can see that Boring is starting to have an effect on you. You are becoming boring yourself.

You’re the only one bored, dude ………………I’m having a fukin blast------

[BoarSpear]

YES!! Ooo, Ooo Bacon maybe!……..Mmmmmmm Bacon….
You’re the only one bored, dude ………………I’m having a fukin blast------

Yep, this IS fun.

[jubaji]

YES!! Ooo, Ooo Bacon maybe!……..Mmmmmmm Bacon….
You’re the only one bored, dude ………………I’m having a fukin blast------

Well, your standard of amusement has been established already...