Pre-fight jitters

[Garland]

They sure sound nice when the actors in 'Rocky' say it, don't they?

But....having a huge egotistic thought might actually backfire for when you really lose, and I mean lose to someone that's just plain better than you.

I think you'd do better if you remained either positive or at least neutral in your mentality.

Just a two shilling for thought, not trying to step over your methods there, Mr Garland.

Uh...thanks for being so condescending. Yeah, if you lose to somebody that's better than you, there's not alot of guilt you can feel about it. The bottom line is that you either win...or you lose. I was simply saying that this train of thought is a good way to redirect the pre-fight jitters. But, hey...what the **** do I know, right?

How about this mentality...go out there and hurt the person. For fun. Who even cares if you win or lose, just do it so you can feel the thuds. The exchange even. What sense is fighting if you don't like to fight...if you don't like exchanging blows, you shouldn't compete. Losing here and there is a risk, and that risk is the admission price. Who gives a shit if you lose (unless you're on the pro-level and it costs you contracts and cash) if you have a GOOD fight.

In my mind, being Poly Ann-ish about the outcome is a fucking joke...so is being pessimistic. In order to win or lose, you have to fight. The mentality of a fighter shouldn't be focused on the outcome, it should be focused on the ACTION.

So, once again...when I fight, I don't focus on the outcome, I simply try to hurt them...and focus on the means to do it, instead of clouding my mind with bullshit and fantasize about what would happen if...I just bang.

Do you have time to think out the outcome when somebody takes a swing at you in REAL life? After you get sucker punched or sideswiped? NO...you just bang away.


And it's Mr. Hummel.
Garland Hummel.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Being nervous and worried about the outcome before you fight or grapple is good, simply because it makes you haul ass.

What i learned is that when youre not worried about winning or losing and youre just going out there to have fun and learn, then thats when youre vulnerable to defeat. If you get in a bad spot, like youre really tired or youre on the brink of losing, you say to yourself, "Its okay, im just going to give up now, i want out, it was just for fun anyway". Thats happened to me many times.

Being confident in your ability to win no matter what situation arises is good. Being confident in preparing/accepting defeat is bad.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

And it's Mr. Hummel.
Garland Hummel.

Garland Humble IMO.

[Garland]

Garland Humble IMO.

Very funny.

[Adept]

Uh...thanks for being so condescending. Yeah, if you lose to somebody that's better than you, there's not alot of guilt you can feel about it. The bottom line is that you either win...or you lose. I was simply saying that this train of thought is a good way to redirect the pre-fight jitters. But, hey...what the **** do I know, right?

How about this mentality...go out there and hurt the person. For fun. Who even cares if you win or lose, just do it so you can feel the thuds. The exchange even. What sense is fighting if you don't like to fight...if you don't like exchanging blows, you shouldn't compete. Losing here and there is a risk, and that risk is the admission price. Who gives a shit if you lose (unless you're on the pro-level and it costs you contracts and cash) if you have a GOOD fight.

In my mind, being Poly Ann-ish about the outcome is a fucking joke...so is being pessimistic. In order to win or lose, you have to fight. The mentality of a fighter shouldn't be focused on the outcome, it should be focused on the ACTION.

So, once again...when I fight, I don't focus on the outcome, I simply try to hurt them...and focus on the means to do it, instead of clouding my mind with bullshit and fantasize about what would happen if...I just bang.

Do you have time to think out the outcome when somebody takes a swing at you in REAL life? After you get sucker punched or sideswiped? NO...you just bang away.


And it's Mr. Hummel.
Garland Hummel.

Wasn't trying to be condescending, I was just using a metaphor. Oh, I had no idea we were talking about street combatives? I thought the old bloke was talking about COMPETITION i.e. 'not a REAL fight'.

I must be in the wrong board, then.

If it was a STREET fight, then yes, having that 'I'm going to smash you up, punk' type of mentality is agreed.

But...

It's COMPETITION, therefore, you must have a different mindset than that of Rambo, sir.

Never did I mention about thinking about losing or winning, merely that ego will get in the way of ANYTHING. If you lose, your ego will simply turn you into something ugly, perhaps even make your fear worsen.

Good day.

[Adept]

Being confident in your ability to win no matter what situation arises is good. Being confident in preparing/accepting defeat is bad.

Hmm, yes and no. Again, just a two cent talk here. I'm no guru or anything or 10x world mundial champ lol.

But being confident in winning and losing will > being confident in just winning.

Think about it. Again, talking about COMPETITION and not street fighting. To be honest, I've never fought in the streets before. If I do street fight, it won't be with my hands. It'd be with a gun, if I have it, or more likely, my Gunting knife since it's less of a hassle to bring along with me and more concealable than any gun.

If you learn to accept the loss from someone who's just more technical than you, you will learn better to cope with it and also, learn to counter whatever was used against you. Now if you're 'not confident' in accepting defeat, you'll end up being an asshole and not want to compete anymore because you HATE losing, yeah? Think about that for a second.

Also, when you learn to accept defeat, you learn to win as well.

I think Bruce Lee said it best in some Longstreet episode, talking to that man about learning the art of dying and all that jazz.

Again, that's what does it for me, perhaps it doesn't do it for you.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

I agree, but my point was that you have to be in the mindset where you think you can win no matter what, and you dont think its okay to lose. But if you do lose, you shouldnt be a "sore loser" about it because you know you tried your hardest.

[jubaji]

you'll end up being an asshole and not want to compete anymore because you HATE losing, yeah? Think about that for a second.

People who hate to lose aren't necessarily going to quit. They're going to train twice as hard so they won't lose again.

Most quitters don't hate to lose enough.

[Garland]

Never did I mention about thinking about losing or winning, merely that ego will get in the way of ANYTHING. If you lose, your ego will simply turn you into something ugly, perhaps even make your fear worsen.

Ok...how is that mentality egotistical? I'd argue that the "I'm going to win this thing!" mentality that you propose is much more ego inflating that "I'm going to go out there and fight. period." mentality.

Fear? That shit is there for a reason. The sympathetic nervous system, the fight or flight shit...that's what you want. I'm simply saying not to ignore it, and choose fight.

[Garland]

People who hate to lose aren't necessarily going to quit. They're going to train twice as hard so they won't lose again.

Most quitters don't hate to lose enough.

Amen! There we go, a Vince Lambardi quote?

[jubaji]

Amen! There we go, a Vince Lambardi quote?

Just a pig quote.

[jubaji]

I am amazed! You actually gave some good advice here! .

Shhhh! Don't tell anyone!

[Adept]

Ok...how is that mentality egotistical? I'd argue that the "I'm going to win this thing!" mentality that you propose is much more ego inflating that "I'm going to go out there and fight. period." mentality.

Which part of my post did I ever say to think like THAT? Please find that quote for me, sir, because I sure can't. If you can find that quote, I shall simply post nothing more on this thread.

MotherFUCK.

Lol, just wanted to say that once since HALF of your posts are filled with curses.

Cheers nows.

[Tant01]

On losing...

I've had my ass handed to me more times than I can count. It's humbling but also VERY educational...

I wanted to play with the higher ranked guys (always)... They liked my entheusiasm but didn't cut me much slack.

Either you'll get better or get tired of trying. The mindset is "mutual welfare and benifit" If he lets you tap out instead of breaking something or putting you to sleep you still win, eh?

Each game has it's own standards of sportsman like conduct.

Don't sweat the small stuff. Even pros get the "pre-fight jitters"

Relaxing into your confidence and the attitude of winning will take you far if you have the skill set. If you're fresh to the game it will take some time to become at ease with the arena.

It's "normal"...

[Garland]

I think you'd do better if you remained either positive or at least neutral in your mentality. If you talk like that to yourself, another fear comes in: the fear of losing. If you're afraid of losing, you'll play it safe and not risk anything, such as trying a submission.

Uh...does that work?