gong-fu/wrestling vs. bully

[jubaji]

maybe if you went to school in south central LA or something, but most public schools are way better than private ones.

That makes no sense at all.

[Tom Yum]

maybe if you went to school in south central LA or something, but most public schools are way better than private ones.

Nope. I went to HS far away from SC LA.

[DickHardman]

I'm talking about guys who will jump you for looking at them the wrong way, gang fights (either 10 on 7 or like 6 on 2) every other day, an occasional drive by and just alot of bad attitude and/or lack of thinking...

maybe if you went to school in south central LA or something, but most public schools are way better than private ones.

[Tom Yum]

please, public school is a breeze compared to catholic school, those are the true penitentiaries. they make you all wear a uniform and if you didnt tuck it in the dean would come and try to tuck it in for you. then they force you to go to church and try to tell you when to sit and stand and kneel. then if you got in trouble your detentions would consist of having to do hard manual labor with the 2 janitors after school.

I see what you mean...you're talking about institutionalism.

I'm talking about guys who will jump you for looking at them the wrong way, gang fights (either 10 on 7 or like 6 on 2) every other day, an occasional drive by and just alot of bad attitude and/or lack of thinking...

I'm not complainin'; I'm just sayin'.

[DickHardman]

Public high school, as I remember it, was something akin to a public correctional facility...

please, public school is a breeze compared to catholic school, those are the true penitentiaries. they make you all wear a uniform and if you didnt tuck it in the dean would come and try to tuck it in for you. then they force you to go to church and try to tell you when to sit and stand and kneel. then if you got in trouble your detentions would consist of having to do hard manual labor with the 2 janitors after school. i missed class almost daily during my senior year because the dean would always try to get me in trouble for having a little bit of stubble on my face. when he would try to make me shave with an already used razor that had other peoples hair on it, i would refuse and have to sit in the office all day long and miss class until my parents came and picked me up when school got out.

[Tom Yum]

Public high school, as I remember it, was something akin to a public correctional facility...

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Yeah, and it also gets you a suspension. Imagine doing that in the work place someday. You get fired. Tell the teacher and be done with it.

I am not going to judge this kid because maybe he told the teacher and they didn't do anything. But you should always take the non-violent way out. If that doesn't work, then do something.

A workplace is nothing like a highschool environment.

[KenshiRyan]

Hmm Really good points, I think Telling the teacher would be the right thing and in a perfect world It would make them stop annoying him but sadly we dont live in a perfect world, If he had done that they wouldve just verbally annoyed him for quite a while, and as I think Tom Yum said before, come after him outside of school hours which Id say is more dangerous than inside school hours, at least now the bully hasnt got much to hassle him about, and everyone else will think twice before bullying the kid again. I say good on the kid.

Mephariel: Yeah, and it also gets you a suspension. Imagine doing that in the work place someday. You get fired. Tell the teacher and be done with it.

Id rather stand up for myself and get suspended than tell a teacher and get annoyed for a long time after by him and his friends.
Im not saying that going to the teacher is a bad and wrong choice, Im pretty sure if he knew telling the teacher would make them stop he wouldve done it, but In my opinion telling the teacher only slows down the problem and in the end makes it worse.
And I hope by the time they are in the workplace their a bit more mature about things lol, but I cant comment on the workplace one cause Ive never been in such a situation. (Im still In school).

[Mephariel]

A kid getting picked on in school is not a lawyer. A smack in the mouth saves a lot of time and paperwork.

Yeah, and it also gets you a suspension. Imagine doing that in the work place someday. You get fired. Tell the teacher and be done with it.

I am not going to judge this kid because maybe he told the teacher and they didn't do anything. But you should always take the non-violent way out. If that doesn't work, then do something.

[Tom Yum]

if that guy really was a bully, then that asian kid may have saved his life. mabye the beating the bully recieved humbled him and made him realize that if you go looking for trouble you will find it. the asian kid may have saved this bully from messing with the wrong people and getting himself killed. who knows. .

Maybe. You would hope so.

At the same time, the bully might be even more pissed. He could start stalking the kid, where he lives or works and planning to beat him down with friends. That's alot to face when you're a young teenager; I'm not saying a youngster isn't capable of handling that kind of pressure, but that's been the flavor since the 90's.

a similar thing happened to the son of my moms bf. he was walking home one day and the school bully and his friends cornered him in a culdesac. they woulnt let him leave, they wanted him to fight the bully. the bully didnt know that this kid was an excellent highschool wrestler with many matches under his belt. the bully didnt even have a chance. he got his ass kicked even after throwing a sucker a punch. the son of my moms bf didnt really have a choice, the people werent going to let him go, they wanted to push him around and make him fight the bully.

I guess he had no choice then.

[Tom Yum]

It makes me angry, yes, it makes me angry why noone picked on me in high school, cuz they knewd i aint for that kind of jokes. .

I got jumped once in highschool protecting a friend. None of those guys would meet me one on one, which was kind of silly, because I wasn't intimidating at all (I was barely 150 and some of the guys in question were a little over 200-lbs). Plus I was only a few years into MA training, so its not like I was anything special.

[DickHardman]

With all due respect Tom it is often worse to be the "snitch"...

yeah man, i aint no snitch.

dont ask me shit, i dont tell man. you can send me to jail.

[Tom Yum]

With all due respect Tom it is often worse to be the "snitch"...?

You are correct, Tant and I hear you.

But if that bully is determined to protect his image or a sore loser, he's going to come back someway or somehow. It helps to have the law on your side, especially if you're right to begin with; that youngster ins't of age to carry any kind of concealed weapon.

Nice...Unless someone wants to press charges.Was he prepared to be arrested after the fact for simple assault?

Exactly my point.

[jigmastermatt]

I agree a little with tom, and a little with the rest of you guys. First off, I'm a little late but I didnt see any real technique with the punches, just the windmill technique... But anyways, I think the asian kid could have easily ended it without telling a teacher and being made fun of even more or beating that kid to a bloody pulp.His wrestling seemed good, he probably could have taken him down and went for a sub, or mounted him, or just get up and take him down again.

[Tant01]

He didn't go through the proper channels to notify the teachers and/or principal first? ....


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Either way, looked like that Asian kid was prepaired.

With all due respect Tom it is often worse to be the "snitch"...

I agree with the post above, I think the little guy did the bully a favor this way. (and got it on video too) Nice...Unless someone wants to press charges.

Was he prepared to be arrested after the fact for simple assault?