Mayweather on the UFC

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Don't forget Big Nog.

You mean Little Nog. He's olympic boxing representative for brazil. Big Nog is still a pretty good boxer though.

[bigred389]

You mean Little Nog. He's olympic boxing representative for brazil. Big Nog is still a pretty good boxer though.

Right, my bad. Hard to keep track of those two.

I was thinking of the Olympic rep Nog, thanks for clearing it up.

[Tom Yum]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDJ6GeRRh4

Choi Yong Soo (WBA super-featherweight champ) vs. Driton Rama (Sweedish Muaythai champ) square off.

You can fast forward about 8:00 into it. The end may suprise you or not.

[Micker]

Maywether while not a heavy puncher I guarentee punches harder than anyone in the UFC

You mean harder then people in his weight class in the UFC. You can only have so much power at 150lbs..

[Tom Yum]

You mean harder then people in his weight class in the UFC. You can only have so much power at 150lbs..

150-lbs isn't exactly tiny; its light and lean. I can think of two guys, local in Texas, whom are in that weight category and whom are KO hitters.

Rey Amaya (IKF welterweight champ 97-98)
Yves Edwards (fought in UFC, fights in alot of kickboxing/MMA).

Both guys can knock me out at my leanest weight 170-lb - granted I'm nothing special at all but I enjoy sparring and training like the next guy.

Rey's got really heavy hands for a welterweight/middleweight as experienced personally and seen sparring/fighting. He's good at punishing the body with his hands and his jab feels like a cross for a guy his size.

You can't catch Yves - his hands and footwork are lightning quick and throws that baseball bat thai-kick. He will make you think he's going one way and then catches you with something you didn't see.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

BTW, Chuck Liddell was on some satallite radio show this morning and he said that he has two 130 pound fighters at his gym that would defeat Mayweather in under 2 minutes.

Its some sports radio show, and they have a punching bag that tests how hard you punch, and out of all the boxers and other fighters that have come on the show, Chuck hits the hardest.

[Tom Yum]

BTW, Chuck Liddell was on some satallite radio show this morning and he said that he has two 130 pound fighters at his gym that would defeat Mayweather in under 2 minutes..

In MMA rules, of course.

In boxing....not too sure about that....

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

In MMA rules, of course.

In boxing....not too sure about that....

Ofcoarse. Thats a given.

[Tom Yum]

Steve Jennum, a part-time practitioner and instructor of Ninjitsu, submitted Melton Bowen, a pro-heavyweight with most of his wins by knockout.

Bowen tried to measure up Jennum with jabs (waited too long) and Jennum got the clinch, pulled a textbook hip toss (a throw taught in almost every MA style) and an arm bar (also taught in many styles). Had Bowen been more aggressive, he could have put some hurt on Jennum, but I think it would have ended the same way unless Bowen's second or third punch was a KO punch.

[Micker]

mma

I don't think its even a question over who would win a fight, a UFC ranked fighter or the top ranked boxers. Boxers have punches, PERIOD. A good MMA fighter has kicks, takedowns, submissions, punches etc.. There is no way that a boxer is not going to get taken down to the mat, where he will be like a fish out of water. Hard to punch when your arm is snapped.

Boxing is not fighting. Its a sport that uses one aspect of a fight. UFC is fighting, controlled a bit so people don't get critically wounded. A boxer of course would have a punchers chance as they say. Anyone can get hit with a lucky shot, but without super luck on your side, a boxer would not beat a well trained UFC ranked fighter. In a boxing match(different sport), maywether may very well even beat Chuck Liddell who has about 50+lbs on him. But in a real fight, Chuck Liddell would make maywether his little bitch.

[Micker]

mma

I know they are both sports, but what I am saying is that MMA is closer to fighting then boxing is. A boxer does not have the tools to compete against an equally skilled MMA fighter in a no hold bars match, which Floyd Mayweather jr. was talking about. He tried to hype up boxing and make MMA look like a fad and all show and said that the UFC “ain’t shit”.

He knows that the UFC/MMA fighting could pass boxing in popularity. Boxing is pretty stale right now. Sad when the biggest hyped fight of the year involves a washed up De La Hoya and another fighter on the verge of retirement. I love how Dana White said that Floyd wouldn't even sell 10 tickets to the fight if it weren't for De La Hoya .

[J-Luck]

The two guys you listed as boxers lets face it were bums!

Maywether while not a heavy puncher I guarentee punches harder than anyone in the UFC, hard punching can not be taught, it is like throwing a fast ball, if you had taken the USA boxing coaches seminar you would be familiar with this story, but Oscar Delahoya's trainer said that it sounded like a shot gun going off when he hit the heavy bag at 13 (119 lbs.!) Boxers hit harder with 160z sparring gloves.

I am not saying he would win, I am saying if he lands a punch it is not like the punches landing now, if mayweather was on that TUF either of those guys would be in the hospital, if not in a deep coma! Boxing is far more dangerous than MMA, the reason being you have no out, in MMA you can go to the ground, or tie up without being broken, I 've said it before on this sight Tyson broke mitch greens jaw with a open hand, a slap guys, now come on that is power!

another point is it is harder to mma fight in a ring, you can slide on the ropes & rope-a dope, anyway I just wanted to bring that up, there have never been any boxers ranked higher than 12th in any major sanctoning body in the UFC, never!

Actually he broke his nose. And the nose is easy to break.

But that's irrelevant, Tyson was one of the harder hitting heavey weights of all time, and also one of the best with timing. Mayweather is not known for power like Tyson was.

You're vastly underestimating MMA boxing skill. Some of these guys have been boxing for years and years. Not saying they even hold a candle to elite boxers, but I would say many top MMA guys have mid level pro boxing skill.

[Micker]

tyson

I agree that Mike Tyson could hit harder then any MMA guy, but Mayweather is 60+ lbs. smaller and Tyson was one of the hardest hitting heavyweights of all time. Tysons popularity was built on his power and huge KOs.

[Britt]

Anybody catch Jim Lampley's post-fight comment on MMA after DLH v. FM?

Will boxing have to cede its place on the stage to other fighting forms, like mixed martial arts? Mixed martial arts is entertaining. The kind of skill level you saw in the ring tonight - there's nothing in mixed martial arts which is within light years of what Mayweather and De La Hoya are able to do with their hands.

Kinda reminds me of the old George Carlin joke: "And now, a message from the National Apple Institute: f&!k pears!"

[Britt]

If Lampley only meant the boxing skills of MMA fighters are nowhere near the boxing skill of top level boxers like DLH and Mayweather, sure, no argument from me at all, but he's just taking an unprovoked potshot at MMA for the sole purpose of showing he doesn't respect it. This isn't the fist time he's done so, either; he's guest hosted the Jim Rome show and gone as far to say that MMA is "not a sport," that it's "just a bar fight" and that MMA fighters "are not athletes."