highschool wrestler uses unusual move for escaping single leg attempt

[DickHardman]

im actually more like that tough, rugged transit worker that stabbed multiple people in a SD situation, except that ive never been in a SD situation and i do carpentry for $20 an hour instead.

[DickHardman]

Wow. Is that before taxes?

Incidentally, now that you're ignoring the actual discussion about the kid who showed courage, heart, and competitive spirit in his wrestling match, should I take it as an evasion, a denial, or an attempt to deflect attention?

well mike, i think you need to brush up on your grappling skills first of all, if you believe that riding a throw is a rare occurrence, which its not. and then after two experienced grapplers gave their opinions that this move is risky, you stated your opinion as well. what else is there to go back to??

[Little Apple]

I personally doubt that the kid thought about it at all. I imagine that he felt the opportunity and went for it. Like when something is falling and you just reach out and catch it: body just goes.

I also imagine that since then he's watched his youtube video roughly ten billion times and feels pretty hot. Don't know the kid personally, so I couldn't say whether he'll try to force the move through in the future and get hurt, or if he'll just live up his awesome fluke till he graduates. Generally though, it just doesn't strike me as the kind of thing he was planning to do at "go". I agree that it's not the type of thing you should ever plan on doing. Cool to watch though.

[jubaji]

By the way, sorry jubaji. I doubt it would have gone this way had you stayed in on the discussion. Dick just makes it so easy!

No prob, this is way more entertaining!

[DickHardman]

No prob, this is way more entertaining!

yeah, its quite amusing how you didnt have anything to contribute to the thread about the one discipline you claim to have experience in

[DickHardman]

Spoken like a competitor, Little Apple.

And dick, discussion is what I was attempting to go back to. Forgive me if I don't share your opinion. Forgive me also if I find it less than convincing that a guy who doesn't have a competitive bone in his body thinks that something a competitor did was too risky.

You mentioned several times that you thought the kid was just showing off. You mentioned that, but you provided no background or evidence to support it. So what I'm left with is a guy who is not a competitor, with no desire to compete, and who cannot understand the difference between what someone trains and what someone is able to improvise during the final test of competitive skill telling me that he thinks this high school kid is just an irresponsible show-off.

I thought that might be worth discussing.

Since you don't like athletes who take risks, what sort of sports do you watch? Who are some of your favorite fighters? You say you wrestled (though arguably not very well, since it is after all competitive, and you've no desire to compete), so who are some of your favorite wrestlers? Do they take risks?

Discuss.

actually what happened was that you didnt know enough about grappling to realize the difference between a guy doing a backflip and a guy riding a throw and landing properly, and after someone who you always try to take cheap shots at pointed that out to you, you had to make a big deal out of it. thats about it.

[jubaji]

You say you wrestled .

Cheech? LOL! That's news!

[jubaji]

yeah, its quite amusing how you didnt have anything to contribute to the thread about the one discipline you claim to have experience in

Don't blame me 'cause while I was busy with other things the thread became Mike toying with you and helping you look stupid again.

[DickHardman]

Don't blame me 'cause while I was busy with other things the thread became Mike toying with you and helping you look stupid again.

all mike did was show his inexperience with grappling.

and please, dont pretend like you were busy, we all know you were setting up your tivo to record american idol.

[DickHardman]

I knew the difference between training and competition, though. I also knew the difference between giving up and winning.

You suck at this game.

you may want to start out learning some light ukemi skills mike. then work your way up slowly. you will be ready to do some actual randori or grappling in no time. in fact, if you are ever back in california let me know, i may be able to give you some private lessons.

[DickHardman]

As for experience? Seriously, Dick. You aren't good enough, old enough, skilled enough, knowledgeable enough, or expereinced enough to pass judgement on what I have and haven't done. You probably haven't even been alive as long as I've been training.

well, this statement doesnt make you look any better, cause i obviously know more about grappling than you, as you thought that a guy riding a throw was rare occurrence, as well as the same thing as a back flip lol.......

[jubaji]

Watch out Mike, he's hitting on you!

[DickHardman]

Why the hell would I want to take lessons from someone who hasn't got a competitive bone in him? I wouldn't want to pollute my own experience with your frightened, risk averse training methods, and I wouldn't want to diminish my competitive spirit by listening to some pinkus that's scared of anything unconventional. I think I'll pass, Dick. And I don't mean the kind of pass that happens after a couple of puffs. I just don't have enough room in my own training for the acceptance of mediocrity you've shown here. I'm sorry to have to put it this way, but you seem like someone who's completely at peace with the idea of living a substandard, uneventful, boring, safe existence. That's just not enough for me.

I'd personally rather break my damned neck going balls to the wall than waste my potential pondering the "safe path" through bong smoke and sawdust.

However, if you ever grow your own set of nuts and want to experience some risk in training - the thrill of overcoming risk and conquering your currently pathetic and irrational fear of risk - I'll help you out. Hell, I'll even train you for free.

the only acceptance of mediocrity has been your training in grappling, which is obviously very limited. yet you want to act like you are an expert on the subject, when you cant tell the difference between two different techniques. then you want to get butt hurt and sad cheeks when someone else points out out your blatant mistakes.

[DickHardman]

I can promise you, I have spent more years grappling with more experienced people than you've probably even met. That's not the point. Your resume is obviously sadly, sadly lacking and that sadness is only exceeded by your lack of athletic and competitive instinct. Hell, I was training with Gracie affiliates before the first UFC aired.

hmm, and despite all that, your knowledge of grappling is still that weak???? you cant even tell the difference between a backflip and a guy riding a throw??thats terrible mike. maybe you should have trained with better people, or paid better attention when the instructor was teaching.

[DickHardman]

Dick, I'm sorry for posting twice in a row, but I just went back and read Little Apple's post. Stop and think about this for a second. It's obvious by her response that she's both been in a position where she acted out of creative instinct AND felt that competitive compulsion to win. She seems to know what it means to listen to your fighting instincts in the face of adversity. She appears to understand completely the spontaneity that is involved when a competitive athlete finds himself in a tough spot and comes up with a highlight move.

You, on the other hand, are sitting there in the bong haze, trying to tell me what's important in training and fighting?

Nope. That high school kid showed more will and balls than you, and Little Apple showed more warrior spirit than you. Jesus. Even Jubaji has common sense working for him.

You know what that leaves you with? Risk aversion and a fear of competition. What a plus.

yeah, but none of that changes the fact that after your inexperience in grappling was pointed out to you by another member of the forum, your only course of action was to personally attack that person for multiple pages on end since you cant stand being corrected or not perceived as an expert in every single topic you speak about.