highschool wrestler uses unusual move for escaping single leg attempt

[DickHardman]

As for experience? Seriously, Dick. You aren't good enough, old enough, skilled enough, knowledgeable enough, or expereinced enough to pass judgement on what I have and haven't done. You probably haven't even been alive as long as I've been training.

well, this statement doesnt make you look any better, cause i obviously know more about grappling than you, as you thought that a guy riding a throw was rare occurrence, as well as the same thing as a back flip lol.......

[DickHardman]

I knew the difference between training and competition, though. I also knew the difference between giving up and winning.

You suck at this game.

you may want to start out learning some light ukemi skills mike. then work your way up slowly. you will be ready to do some actual randori or grappling in no time. in fact, if you are ever back in california let me know, i may be able to give you some private lessons.

[DickHardman]

Don't blame me 'cause while I was busy with other things the thread became Mike toying with you and helping you look stupid again.

all mike did was show his inexperience with grappling.

and please, dont pretend like you were busy, we all know you were setting up your tivo to record american idol.

[jubaji]

yeah, its quite amusing how you didnt have anything to contribute to the thread about the one discipline you claim to have experience in

Don't blame me 'cause while I was busy with other things the thread became Mike toying with you and helping you look stupid again.

[jubaji]

You say you wrestled .

Cheech? LOL! That's news!

[DickHardman]

Spoken like a competitor, Little Apple.

And dick, discussion is what I was attempting to go back to. Forgive me if I don't share your opinion. Forgive me also if I find it less than convincing that a guy who doesn't have a competitive bone in his body thinks that something a competitor did was too risky.

You mentioned several times that you thought the kid was just showing off. You mentioned that, but you provided no background or evidence to support it. So what I'm left with is a guy who is not a competitor, with no desire to compete, and who cannot understand the difference between what someone trains and what someone is able to improvise during the final test of competitive skill telling me that he thinks this high school kid is just an irresponsible show-off.

I thought that might be worth discussing.

Since you don't like athletes who take risks, what sort of sports do you watch? Who are some of your favorite fighters? You say you wrestled (though arguably not very well, since it is after all competitive, and you've no desire to compete), so who are some of your favorite wrestlers? Do they take risks?

Discuss.

actually what happened was that you didnt know enough about grappling to realize the difference between a guy doing a backflip and a guy riding a throw and landing properly, and after someone who you always try to take cheap shots at pointed that out to you, you had to make a big deal out of it. thats about it.

[DickHardman]

No prob, this is way more entertaining!

yeah, its quite amusing how you didnt have anything to contribute to the thread about the one discipline you claim to have experience in

[jubaji]

By the way, sorry jubaji. I doubt it would have gone this way had you stayed in on the discussion. Dick just makes it so easy!

No prob, this is way more entertaining!

[Little Apple]

I personally doubt that the kid thought about it at all. I imagine that he felt the opportunity and went for it. Like when something is falling and you just reach out and catch it: body just goes.

I also imagine that since then he's watched his youtube video roughly ten billion times and feels pretty hot. Don't know the kid personally, so I couldn't say whether he'll try to force the move through in the future and get hurt, or if he'll just live up his awesome fluke till he graduates. Generally though, it just doesn't strike me as the kind of thing he was planning to do at "go". I agree that it's not the type of thing you should ever plan on doing. Cool to watch though.

[DickHardman]

Wow. Is that before taxes?

Incidentally, now that you're ignoring the actual discussion about the kid who showed courage, heart, and competitive spirit in his wrestling match, should I take it as an evasion, a denial, or an attempt to deflect attention?

well mike, i think you need to brush up on your grappling skills first of all, if you believe that riding a throw is a rare occurrence, which its not. and then after two experienced grapplers gave their opinions that this move is risky, you stated your opinion as well. what else is there to go back to??

[DickHardman]

im actually more like that tough, rugged transit worker that stabbed multiple people in a SD situation, except that ive never been in a SD situation and i do carpentry for $20 an hour instead.

[DickHardman]

I kinda have you pegged as a John Goodman type. You know, the kind of guy who will sit around the house talking about all the cool athletic stuff he used to do while he drinks beer (or smokes pot) with his friends, watching YouTube, not taking unnecessary risks.

you look up to john goodman????

[DickHardman]

Screw locking the thread! This is as much fun as I've had on the forums in a while.

Seriously, man, I hope you don't think I'm taking this personally or anything, and I hope sincerely that you aren't either.

As for the opinions that are in line with the topic, I really do respect that kid for taking a risk and winning his match like that. I personally doubt that he trains that way, or that he'd advocate it as a "best practice" in the same situation, but I could be wrong. Maybe he's a douche. Maybe he does. To me, it just looked like a kid who was letting it all go in a competition, and I can appreciate that attitude. I've been a competitor, too, and I really do have a deeper respect for competitors that gamble on themselves, take risks, and don't look for sympathy if it goes wrong. To me, it shows confidence and drive, and I find those qualities critical to success as a fighter as well as in life.

Since you've already said you're not a fighter and you have no desire to be, that you're not one to take personal risks to win, and that you can't understand why the guy would either, I get it. You and I just respect different things. No worries.

All I'm saying is that it's pretty pointless to talk about how deadly his move might have been. The fact - the reality of it - is that it worked, and he won as a result. I just think that what actually happened outweighs what could have happened but didn't.

the denials, coverups, and assurances did come as i predicted.....

[DickHardman]

Come on, now. You did that one on purpose!

seriously though. which rebellious/badass icon do you associate me with most mike? james dean, john wayne, or clint eastwood??

[DickHardman]

I wasn't picking on the spelling error. I was laughing at it. I don't know why, but it struck me as funnier than it should have been, and I laughed out loud when I saw it. That's why I said it was awesome. I didn't say you were a dumb shit because you couldn't spell proportion. I complimented your spelling error because it made me laugh!

And I wasn't "declaring victory," either. I was never competing. Are you? I thought this was just about opinions? Now I'm confused. Apparently, you're not being entirely honest here...

here come your distractions, covers, and assurances that you are fine etc.....lol...



may as well lock the thread mike. its all downhill from here.