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I was very tired when I wrote the above post, my apologies for rambling . . . to paraphrase "Yes, I do think BJJ is an effective form of selfdefense".
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Do you think you could further compress this statement please.Originally posted by DJColdfusion View Post
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A friend of mine on another forum had an opportunity to hang out with Relson (Gracie) one day...
He related this story you might find of interest...
(or not?)
Relson Gracie was in the store a few months ago.
He was in town for a seminar and came by with an employee who attended, to shoot some full auto guns. He was looking around the store and we started chatting, VERY cool guy (the bad asses usually are) and one of the guys there had me show him the Karambit in action. Afterward, he made the comment that "if you have a knife or gun, Jiu-Jitsu not work" which is not the mindset of many of the BJJ guys I have rolled with.
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Keep it real gentlemen...
most respectfully,
~RG.Comment
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Relson Gracie swings by my friend's Jiujitsu school all the time, I wish I could go meet him one of these days.Comment
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Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
Honestly, not the kind of stuff I've heard from Relson . . . soirry, but I honestly doubt that ever happened.Comment
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Well said
DJColdfusion is right on track....street defense/preservation is not about coming out unscathed, it's about coming out. Talk to the well trained Filipino guys and there is an acceptance of injury to "win a knife fight", well trained boxers know there will be contact back in all encounters, BJJ guys know that outdoor grappling sucks dirty donkey D!ck but is a favorable alternative to getting "a mudhole stomped in your face" (DMX baby). No one wants to face multiple opponents, movie heroism be damned, and certainly when presented with the daunting task of facing said group even a wallpaper paste eating retard knows the ground is the last place you "Want to be", but better to be prepared than destroyed before you even get started!!!!Comment
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Whatever buddy...
Originally posted by DJColdfusion View Post
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You can find pictures on the USN...Comment
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I owe Tant01 an apology. (This is it) I did not mean to infer dishonesty in my post that referenced his Relson story. I just don't believe Relson ever said it.
Whether it was the language barrier or someone just misunderstood someone else . . . I don't know.
I honestly just don't think it happened.Comment
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No appology necessary... As you were DJ.
I had a good idea there would be some skepticism.
I wasn't there, you know how third hand stories go...Comment
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Sorry no clip, just a comment on the incident though.Originally posted by Liberty View Post
The guy locked up the armbar, and was slowly picked up and bounced a few times, both werent trying to hurt each other, I think it may have played out differently if the guy applying the armbar decided to shoot his hips up and crank it as hard as he could, ala royce gracie in the early UFC's (I know he broke at least one arm).
Theres always the underhook of the leg which prevents slams, and along with the underhooking the leg the pendulum sweep that comes from it.
Dont know why no one ever does that in MMA, maybe they want to get Arona'd?Comment
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Found the Clip: You need to log on cos its an over 18. Ill try and put it in my post.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4rznkMqCN0[/YOUTUBE]
You can see this guys holds werent all that effective because he got slammed into a few obsticals. But obviously the other fighter was very strong and skilled and if he got a normal guy into an arm-bar it might of even got broken.
But watching it back i can see how his BJJ did help him, even if he did get slammed twice he managed to keep the other guy away from just purely pounding on his face.
Good fight though, nice to see two UFC fighters go at it without a ref.
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