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  • #16
    Join your school's wrestling team and stop wasting time in the yard with fat kids.

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    • #17
      I am joining the school wrestling team in 9th grade. And hes my friend so shut up. I just want to know what techniques will help me beat him. Thats all i want to know. Its that easy

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      • #18
        Ground and pound?

        Originally posted by bWsWwrestler View Post
        ive tried many different judo throws. He has good balance and good takedown defense. Thats the only skilll he has. But ill try grabbing one leg then pulling him down. And no offense but you guys really arnt that helpful. I just wanted a simple answer and none of you can give a straight answer. My fight is next week so just taking a class isnt going to work out.
        How many? Name one?

        De-ashi-harai?
        (advancing foot sweep)

        Hiza Guruma?
        (knee wheel)

        He seems a bit LARGE to try any lifting throws?

        You need him on the ground to do YOUR BJJ thing, right?

        Work on that.

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        • #19
          What rules are you fighting under?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bWsWwrestler View Post
            I am joining the school wrestling team in 9th grade. And hes my friend so shut up. I just want to know what techniques will help me beat him. Thats all i want to know. Its that easy


            Come back after your first year of wrestling is complete.



            And put your fat friend on a diet.

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            • #21
              its the exact same as UFC rules. Ive tried an uchi mata on him, seoi nage, and ive tried a couple hip throws that ive seen people do but dont know the names. Any advice for some really good sweeps

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              • #22
                You might get him with Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi

                Originally posted by bWsWwrestler View Post
                its the exact same as UFC rules. Ive tried an uchi mata on him, seoi nage, and ive tried a couple hip throws that ive seen people do but dont know the names. Any advice for some really good sweeps

                Again... those are "lifting" throws. No wonder you failed to take him down...

                Look up the two I suggested and PRACTICE them. They have both served me very well against guys I couldn't "throw"...

                Just trip him, it's easy...

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                • #23
                  Actually, it would probably be a good idea to arm drag, take his back and side trip him. Since the kid has no clue what he is doing that would be pretty easy to pick up. Trying to teach him to throw may very well be futile until he gets some real training.

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                  • #24
                    or that...

                    Originally posted by jubaji View Post
                    Actually, it would probably be a good idea to arm drag, take his back and side trip him. Since the kid has no clue what he is doing that would be pretty easy to pick up. Trying to teach him to throw may very well be futile until he gets some real training.
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                    • #25
                      I'm 135-140 lbs and I've suplexed guys that are 220+ while live sparring. It's not about size difference, it's about leverage and technique.

                      If he really has no skill then just use your speed and do an arm drag or dart in close and use some quick clinch work to get behind him while standing. Grab tight around his waist and depending on how far around to his back you're able to get use your far foot to step on or catch behind his far foot (ie: your right foot vs his right foot) and just pull him down to the ground.

                      Like anything else vs a bigger guy you're going to have to set him up somehow.

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                      • #26
                        Ouch... And then some.

                        Originally posted by Penance View Post
                        I'm 135-140 lbs and I've suplexed guys that are 220+ while live sparring. It's not about size difference, it's about leverage and technique.If he really has no skill then just use your speed and do an arm drag or dart in close and use some quick clinch work to get behind him while standing. Grab tight around his waist and depending on how far around to his back you're able to get use your far foot to step on or catch behind his far foot (ie: your right foot vs his right foot) and just pull him down to the ground.

                        Like anything else vs a bigger guy you're going to have to set him up somehow.

                        Maximum efficiency is ART. Using brute strength, not so much.
                        I advise against lifting throws because of his inexperience, youth and small frame. If you fell under that 220 pounds it might mess up your whole day...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Penance View Post
                          I'm 135-140 lbs and I've suplexed guys that are 220+ while live sparring. It's not about size difference, it's about leverage and technique.

                          Right, and it seems this kid does not have those.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
                            How many? Name one?

                            De-ashi-harai?
                            (advancing foot sweep)

                            Hiza Guruma?
                            (knee wheel)

                            He seems a bit LARGE to try any lifting throws?

                            You need him on the ground to do YOUR BJJ thing, right?

                            Work on that.
                            I dunno man, I've been training judo pretty hard coming from a solid background of BJJ and a little bit of wrestling and I still gotta say De-ashi is one helluva hard foot sweep to land for someone new to the sport. Hiza Guruma and Sasae-Tsuri-Komi-Ashi I like but I think they'll be hard for him since his opponent won't have a gi on.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by bWsWwrestler View Post
                              I just want to have some fun and none of you guys are giving advice. And trust me ive been training very very hard for those 2 years i can definitly finish te match on the ground. And im guessing i didnt make that clear. He is just a big FAT guy. So hes not just all muscle and hes slow. Since he has a bigger reach i was thinking of moving in close to him to take away the reach advantage and just try to work in the clinch.
                              There's no magic bullet to fighting bigger people. The key is to just gas him out and have superior technique.
                              I don't recommend clinching with big guys at all. By putting yourself into a clinch you're allowing him to use his weight and strength to his advantage to sling you around and dirty box you. I doubt you'd be able to take him down in the clinch.

                              If you were an excellent striker I'd say to just outstrike him since trying to take someone down that much bigger than you is next to impossible unless you are a truly skilled grappler and he has horrendous skill but since you seem to lack abilities in the striking department I dunno what to say.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by bWsWwrestler View Post
                                its the exact same as UFC rules. Ive tried an uchi mata on him, seoi nage, and ive tried a couple hip throws that ive seen people do but dont know the names. Any advice for some really good sweeps
                                I won't recommend those throws for nogi at all unless you're a very good judoka. Uchi-Mata is a much more complicated throw than most people make it appear. Seoi Nage is a good throw but without a gi it makes it very easy for them to take your back and choke you.

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